View Full Version : List of B2 Options that never made it to production and some that did.
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 11:29 AM
This is a rumor list.
1. Pop out Side windows-There is doccumentation that says there were. Owners manual discusses how to remove and store them.
2. Rear bucket seats-There are reports that they are out there. No pictures to back it.
3. 4.0L B2 in late 1990-No proof that they exist. If Ford made Prototypes then they would never have been sold, and likey to have been dismantled. 1991 was the intro of the Explorer. Someone that started the rumor likley saw an Explorer Sport 2 door and thought it was a new B2.
4. 8.8 rear axle.- Rumor and no proof of existance.
5. D35 front axle-*Confirmed*. Nearly all 1990 models will have a D35 axle. 3.73 ratio is a guarantee.
6. M5OD 5 speed trans.-*Confirmed* Most if not all 1990 models will have this as a manual trans. 1989 saw the last of the FM146's.
7. Real 2wd trans without dummy case in 2wd models-Yes and no. later model ones are rumored to have a ranger 2wd trans. AllanD would be able to confirm this.
All I can think of at the moment.
engdept
08-27-2008, 11:33 AM
Maurice and I looked at a '90 2wd Bronco II that had a true 2wd transmission in it from the factory. I was going to buy it until we saw that; if I got a 2wd, I wanted to be able to easily convert to 4wd.
Rear buckets would be NICE!
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 11:58 AM
3. 4.0L B2 in late 1990-No proof that they exist. If Ford made Prototypes then they would never have been sold, and likey to have been dismantled. 1991 was the intro of the Explorer. Someone that started the rumor likley saw an Explorer Sport 2 door and thought it was a new B2.
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In my 1990 BII User Manual, it references the 4.0 as an 'Optional' motor...I don't think they exist tho...
WhiteBroncoII2WD
08-27-2008, 12:05 PM
In my 1990 BII User Manual, it references the 4.0 as an 'Optional' motor...I don't think they exist tho...
A lot of the information for the engine section in the Owner's manual is shared with the engine section in the Ranger's Owner's manual.
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 12:11 PM
A lot of the information for the engine section in the Owner's manual is shared with the engine section in the Ranger's Owner's manual.
Yeah, I guess that makes sense...but it's still in the BII manual, someone must have screwed up.
Boggin-B-Series
08-27-2008, 12:15 PM
hey, doen some researching and found this
http://broncoii.org/techpages/history/index.html
(http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://broncoii.org/techpages/history/photos/biiplusinteriorsmall.JPG&imgrefurl=http://broncoii.org/techpages/history/index.html&h=240&w=320&sz=18&hl=en&start=6&usg=__1h32o7jafv1iobyptXoTA7dWoN8=&tbnid=4B8EOxrwG_HkJM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3DBronco%2B2%2Bremovable%2Bwindows%26gb v%3D2%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG)
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 12:19 PM
If you thought engineers were bad, the guys that put the owners manuals together know less of the vehicle than a 2 year old would.
The engine chapter was likely borrowed from the ranger manual. The haynes manual shows a 4.0L ranger/bII engine electrical schematic, but we all know it's for the Ranger.
FWIW if you can find a 1990 4.0L in a Ranger the 4.0L swap into a 1990 B2 will be a True Plug and Play. A 1991 4.oL is close but there are a couple of plugs they swapped around.
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 12:22 PM
hey, doen some researching and found this
http://broncoii.org/techpages/history/index.html
(http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://broncoii.org/techpages/history/photos/biiplusinteriorsmall.JPG&imgrefurl=http://broncoii.org/techpages/history/index.html&h=240&w=320&sz=18&hl=en&start=6&usg=__1h32o7jafv1iobyptXoTA7dWoN8=&tbnid=4B8EOxrwG_HkJM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3DBronco%2B2%2Bremovable%2Bwindows%26gb v%3D2%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG)
Yup that's the brochure add. There is another page to it however, I believe I've seen it. I also remember a site dedicated to the chapters in the owners manual about the pop out windows.
WhiteBroncoII2WD
08-27-2008, 12:25 PM
hey, doen some researching and found this
http://broncoii.org/techpages/history/index.html
(http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://broncoii.org/techpages/history/photos/biiplusinteriorsmall.JPG&imgrefurl=http://broncoii.org/techpages/history/index.html&h=240&w=320&sz=18&hl=en&start=6&usg=__1h32o7jafv1iobyptXoTA7dWoN8=&tbnid=4B8EOxrwG_HkJM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3DBronco%2B2%2Bremovable%2Bwindows%26gb v%3D2%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG)
If you are referring to the little picture up top, I believe that is a BroncoII Plus. Interestingly enough though, if you look closely at the 1984 Bronco II Ad you can see the latches on the rear windows
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 12:35 PM
If you are referring to the little picture up top, I believe that is a BroncoII Plus. Interestingly enough though, if you look closely at the 1984 Bronco II Ad you can see the latches on the rear windows
Haha that's funny as that is the other page to the brochure. I never noticed it there. They are the same B2. So in reality One "Did" exist at one time.
Boggin-B-Series
08-27-2008, 12:38 PM
thats why i posted it! lol
WhiteBroncoII2WD
08-27-2008, 12:42 PM
thats why i posted it! lol
and that's probably were I saw it before:rolleyes:
Boggin-B-Series
08-27-2008, 12:50 PM
haha, you never know!
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 12:51 PM
If you thought engineers were bad, the guys that put the owners manuals together know less of the vehicle than a 2 year old would.
The engine chapter was likely borrowed from the ranger manual. The haynes manual shows a 4.0L ranger/bII engine electrical schematic, but we all know it's for the Ranger.
FWIW if you can find a 1990 4.0L in a Ranger the 4.0L swap into a 1990 B2 will be a True Plug and Play. A 1991 4.oL is close but there are a couple of plugs they swapped around.
I have a 1990 4.0 Ranger and two '90 BII's....I had a thread earlier trying to decide what to do with them....
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 12:52 PM
So the choice is obvious!:stirthepot:
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 12:59 PM
So the choice is obvious!:stirthepot:
One would think... But the Ranger is in such nice condition...No rust, No Dents etc
But, it has a Blown A4LD....
Build the Ranger or Build a BII? I dunno. I decided to do the Ranger, but who knows, I haven't started anything yet.
engdept
08-27-2008, 01:02 PM
Bronco II!
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 01:05 PM
Bronco II!
:icon_hornsup:
Boggin-B-Series
08-27-2008, 01:07 PM
:icon_hornsup:
Ill third that
:icon_hornsup:
DEFFINETLY do the bronco
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 01:08 PM
lol goodness guys, I've had so many BII's I figured I'd do a Ranger...Here is the thread
http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23561
Boggin-B-Series
08-27-2008, 01:17 PM
............the Ranger is in such nice condition...No rust, No Dents etc.........
pffffft
Whats a lifted and locked truck with no dents or scratches?
:tease:
even if you did do the ranger, If it was actually gonna be a offroad truck then it would have dents and scratches anyways...
you know what...
theres only would word that settles this situation...
that word is...
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wait for it....
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almost...
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anddd...
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nope not yet...
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ah here it is...
BRONCO!!
:secret::clapping::tease::idiot::pray::wub::)
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 01:20 PM
lol, that was funny, you forgot the II tho:D
I know, it's an offoad vehicle, but, I hate to just tear apart such a nice little Ranger, I hate ruining rbv's, this will be my...uh....like 7th :(
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 01:21 PM
lol goodness guys, I've had so many BII's I figured I'd do a Ranger...Here is the thread
http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23561
You'll miss the extra interior room.
engdept
08-27-2008, 01:23 PM
You'll miss the extra interior room.
True dat!
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 01:26 PM
lol, that was funny, you forgot the II tho:D
I know, it's an offoad vehicle, but, I hate to just tear apart such a nice little Ranger, I hate ruining rbv's, this will be my...uh....like 7th :(
There is lots of them out there still.
I've sent three B2's to the crusher and i had a minty running Ranger come through my yard that is going to the crusher on Friday. Next week I'll add another B2 to the list.
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 01:32 PM
I've sent Two '85 BII's to the crusher, Two '90 BII's, 1 Ranger, 1 4dr explorer and one 2dr explorer....
Yeah, there are a bunch, maybe I'll pull the motor and then just put the truck on Craigslist, maybe some one needs a Cab/Bed
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 01:34 PM
Throw the 2.9L in it. Should also be a plug and play.
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 01:37 PM
The 2.9 in the BII that i would put the 4.0 in is only it's last cylinder, I think both head gaskets are blown, and it's got like 287,000 on her, it still starts every mornin tho:D(only goes about 50mph or so)
Plug and Play....Just have to change out the comp and engine harness?
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 01:42 PM
And the distribution harness. Should be no spliceing involved. Even the fuel lines terminate in the same spot. so no splicing there either.
OK Sorry i lied Youll have to swap some wires if you go from the auto to manual. but if it's auto for auto your set.
I've got a good running 2.9L sitting in my shop. the guy told me yesterday he had no use for it, after I've been holding onto it for nearly a year because he said he'd take it.
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 02:04 PM
Here is another one.
Non tinted rear and side windows. I've heard of them but not sure they were available.
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 02:09 PM
Here is another one.
Non tinted rear and side windows. I've heard of them but not sure they were available.
I saw one at the wrecker a week ago, I have seen two of them so far.
I have also seen one with no windows...It may have been custom, but it looked so clean and well done I thought it was factory. I dont know who would do all that work, I mean, the body work was incredible.
I have also seen some without a roof rack at all, dunno if this is rare or not.
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 02:13 PM
This is a rumor list.
6. M5OD 5 speed trans.-*Confirmed* Most if not all 1990 models will have this as a manual trans. 1989 saw the last of the FM146's.
All I can think of at the moment.
Of the 5 '90 BII's I have owned, they have all had the FM146.... I guess I have bad luck. They did however have a D35.(All but one)
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 02:18 PM
Of the 5 '90 BII's I have owned, they have all had the FM146.... I guess I have bad luck. They did however have a D35.(All but one)
Really. Could be the late to last few that got the M5OD. I've seen atleast 2.
The one non D35 was prolly an early production 90.
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 02:21 PM
I saw one at the wrecker a week ago, I have seen two of them so far.
I have also seen one with no windows...It may have been custom, but it looked so clean and well done I thought it was factory. I dont know who would do all that work, I mean, the body work was incredible.
I have also seen some without a roof rack at all, dunno if this is rare or not.
So they did make them.
No windows as in a filler panel/Panelside. That would be different.
Not all had the roof rack. I had an 89 that was rackless. My 87 was too.
That reminds me of the non tire carrier ones too. Buddy of mine has one as a parts truck. I might steel that hatch for mine if I don't finish my split gate.
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 02:30 PM
So they did make them.
No windows as in a filler panel/Panelside. That would be different.
Not all had the roof rack. I had an 89 that was rackless. My 87 was too.
That reminds me of the non tire carrier ones too. Buddy of mine has one as a parts truck. I might steel that hatch for mine if I don't finish my split gate.
Yeah, panelside.
Yeah, I have seen the ones with no spare tire rack, one at the wrecking yard had the OE spare under a cover on the....drivers side I think, I think the interior panel was even changed to accomodate the spare.
engdept
08-27-2008, 02:31 PM
Maurice's '86 is rackless.
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 02:36 PM
Anyone seen a 4banger or Diesel BII?
engdept
08-27-2008, 02:41 PM
I have saw a 4 banger 2.3 BII, but not a diesel.
Boggin-B-Series
08-27-2008, 02:42 PM
so B2's are suposed to have the spare tire carriers on the hatch?
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 02:44 PM
so B2's are suposed to have the spare tire carriers on the hatch?
It was an option, looky here:
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m205/danteinien/sherrord_b2_11.jpg
Boggin-B-Series
08-27-2008, 02:47 PM
hm, never knew that..
I just cant wait to get my b2, did ya here? its free!!! :D and the only thing wrong is a front U-Joint on the drivers side, do ya think I could fix that myself if I knew what I was doing?
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 02:47 PM
I have saw a 4 banger 2.3 BII, but not a diesel.
That's another rare one. I've heard of them but have never seen proof of it.
so B2's are suposed to have the spare tire carriers on the hatch?
Yes, but not all of them had it. Like was said above there was a bracket inside the cab on the drivers side rear panel that the tire bolted to. I don't think you'd fit anything more than a 215/75 in there.
Boggin-B-Series
08-27-2008, 02:50 PM
Yes, but not all of them had it. Like was said above there was a bracket inside the cab on the drivers side rear panel that the tire bolted to. I don't think you'd fit anything more than a 215/75 in there.
oh I see..thanks for the info
engdept
08-27-2008, 02:55 PM
That's another rare one. I've heard of them but have never seen proof of it.
I wish I had taken a picture of it.
isn't there a member here building one now?
Yes, but not all of them had it. Like was said above there was a bracket inside the cab on the drivers side rear panel that the tire bolted to. I don't think you'd fit anything more than a 215/75 in there.
You would be lucky to get that size tire on the interior spare tire mount; and then you would have that much less cargo space.
CopyKat
08-27-2008, 02:59 PM
IIRC the only 2 tire choices you had were 205/75-15's or 215/75-15's
WhiteBroncoII2WD
08-27-2008, 03:05 PM
Yeah, panelside.
Yeah, I have seen the ones with no spare tire rack, one at the wrecking yard had the OE spare under a cover on the....drivers side I think, I think the interior panel was even changed to accomodate the spare.
I believe it's the same interior panel...
WhiteBroncoII2WD
08-27-2008, 03:06 PM
Yeah, panelside.
Yeah, I have seen the ones with no spare tire rack, one at the wrecking yard had the OE spare under a cover on the....drivers side I think, I think the interior panel was even changed to accomodate the spare.
we need pictures of these panelsides:D
WhiteBroncoII2WD
08-27-2008, 03:07 PM
I have saw a 4 banger 2.3 BII, but not a diesel.
anyone know what year or years these were offered?
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 03:08 PM
we need pictures of these panelsides:D
The guy lives here in my city somewhere, if I see it again, I'll take a pic.
WhiteBroncoII2WD
08-27-2008, 03:20 PM
The guy lives here in my city somewhere, if I see it again, I'll take a pic.
Alright, I as well as others here, I trust, are counting on it
WhiteBroncoII2WD
08-27-2008, 03:21 PM
The guy lives here in my city somewhere, if I see it again, I'll take a pic.
Have you ever tried to stop him and talk to him, maybe convince him to join TRS?
BlackBII
08-27-2008, 03:29 PM
Have you ever tried to stop him and talk to him, maybe convince him to join TRS?
I haven't, I have just seen it driving around and in a parking lot one time. He's an older guy, the bronco is Red and looks stock other than the panels.
AllanD
08-28-2008, 12:20 PM
My commenary inserted in RED below
This is a rumor list.
1. Pop out Side windows-There is doccumentation that says there were. Owners manual discusses how to remove and store them.
Still looking, but I've got the same '85 owners manual
2. Rear bucket seats-There are reports that they are out there. No pictures to back it.
'84-85, look real close at early XLS models or any Bronco2 with a factory knob type sunroof. so far every Bronco2 I've seen with buckets
(all four of them) has also had a sunroof.
3. 4.0L B2 in late 1990-No proof that they exist. If Ford made Prototypes then they would never have been sold, and likey to have been dismantled. 1991 was the intro of the Explorer. Someone that started the rumor likley saw an Explorer Sport 2 door and thought it was a new B2.
I'm thinking the same thing, that someone saw an explorer sport. if someone has a bronco2 with the proper "X" as the eighth character of the VIN I want to see it
4. 8.8 rear axle.- Rumor and no proof of existance.
No Such Thing
5. D35 front axle-*Confirmed*. Nearly all 1990 models will have a D35 axle. 3.73 ratio is a guarantee.
1990 models produced 11-89 or later
6. M5OD 5 speed trans.-*Confirmed* Most if not all 1990 models will have this as a manual trans. 1989 saw the last of the FM146's.
I have yet to see a Mazda equipped Bronco2 with a manual T-case, and that includes some fairly late production 1990's that had FM146 transmissions, remember that the FM146 was used in rangers with the 2,9 engine through the end of 1992
7. Real 2wd trans without dummy case in 2wd models-Yes and no. later model ones are rumored to have a ranger 2wd trans. AllanD would be able to confirm this.
seen this, I even have one of the "adapters" that slip into the back of a Mazda trans with a four bolt flange for the bolt on driveshaft.
What is "rumor" on this subject is an A4LD (or FM132) equipped bronco2 with a similar "adapter" and no dummy T-case. If anyone ever sees one of these I want that adapter! (I have plans for a Dana TC28 T-case)
All I can think of at the moment.
I can't think of any more either
Here is another one.
Non tinted rear and side windows. I've heard of them but not sure they were available.
They were all "lightly tinted" but there were two tint levels.
the "Standard" tint that was the usual light greenish color, then there is the semi-mirrored "Privacy glass", which was optional
(but included in many packages)
IIRC the only 2 tire choices you had were 205/75-15's or 215/75-15's
Some early Bronco2's were factpory equipped with 195/75-15's on 15x5" (not 5-1/2" wide) rims, my stripper model (vinyl seats, no rear window defogger, "fixed" rear glass, and inside tire carrier) 1986 bronco2 came from the factory with 195's.
CopyKat
08-28-2008, 12:48 PM
I believe it was Jason-Paul on RRORC that claimed his B2 came from the factory with the M5OD. I have not seen one personally. I have however seen a 91 Ranger with 2.9L, and M5 with 1354E t-case and D35/8.8 axles, all in a Reg cab long box.
Here is another If the 90 B2 has a D35 it is for sure to have a 1354 t-case. So where there is a 1354E option there must be a 1354M option.
BlackBII
08-28-2008, 12:49 PM
I have a number of Tcases and 90 BII's with D35's, I'll take looksy
WhiteBroncoII2WD
08-28-2008, 12:54 PM
I have a number of Tcases and 90 BII's with D35's, I'll take looksy
how many Bronco IIs do you have, BlackBII?
Totalled
08-28-2008, 10:09 PM
This is a rumor list.
1. Pop out Side windows-There is doccumentation that says there were. Owners manual discusses how to remove and store them.
From my owner's manual...
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/04-04-2007080809PM.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/04-04-2007081122PM.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/04-04-2007081419PM.jpg
2. Rear bucket seats-There are reports that they are out there. No pictures to back it.
You mean these?
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/gallery_6832_50_1109705962.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/gallery_6832_50_1113248135.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/gallery_6832_50_1113248492.jpg
7. Real 2wd trans without dummy case in 2wd models-Yes and no. later model ones are rumored to have a ranger 2wd trans. AllanD would be able to confirm this.
Brian's 1990 had that..
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/SUNP0327.jpg
AllanD
08-29-2008, 02:38 AM
I believe it was Jason-Paul on RRORC that claimed his B2 came from the factory with the M5OD. I have not seen one personally. I have however seen a 91 Ranger with 2.9L, and M5 with 1354E t-case and D35/8.8 axles, all in a Reg cab long box.
Here is another If the 90 B2 has a D35 it is for sure to have a 1354 t-case. So where there is a 1354E option there must be a 1354M option.
I didn't say that the post 11-89 Bronco2's didn't come with the mazda.
what I said was I've nver seen a bronco2 with a Mazda AND a manual T-case in the same vehicle.
ALL the Manual T-case '90 bronco2's I've seen had FM146 or A4LD transmissions.
weird, but that's the way I've seen them.
I don't count the one Bronco2 with a Mazda and a manual T-case where it was painfully obvious that the manual T-case had been retrofitted.
(the carpet was a real hack job and the previous owner didn't even bother to remove the e-case wiring.
AD
engdept
08-29-2008, 10:15 AM
You mean these?
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/gallery_6832_50_1109705962.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/gallery_6832_50_1113248135.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/gallery_6832_50_1113248492.jpg
I WANT THOSE! Wanna sell them?
CopyKat
08-29-2008, 10:29 AM
Looks like an Eddie Baur, cuz of the pine tree pattern in the seats.
Thanks Pat for the pictures.
85_Ranger4x4
08-29-2008, 10:59 AM
You mean these?
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/gallery_6832_50_1109705962.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/gallery_6832_50_1113248135.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/gallery_6832_50_1113248492.jpg
I seen a BII in a junkyard that had those back seats. I remember thinking it was odd they put buckets in the back of BII's but not Explorers and went on my way pillaging.
I have to admit, my BII experiance isn't all that extensive.
It has been a couple years, so I bet if nobody has nabbed them by now they are either shot or crushed.
exbass94
08-29-2008, 11:54 PM
Those look exactly like seats out of a mid-90s Chevy Astro.
engdept
09-22-2008, 08:24 AM
I had a friend email me this morning Joel. He said he remembers seeing a conversion option for a Bronco II that gave it a removable top. I think he called it a Sherrard conversion?
Any ideas on this?
BlackBII
09-22-2008, 08:39 AM
I had a friend email me this morning Joel. He said he remembers seeing a conversion option for a Bronco II that gave it a removable top. I think he called it a Sherrard conversion?
Any ideas on this?
http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216
:D
engdept
09-22-2008, 09:00 AM
http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216
:D
freakin sweet, thanks!
Rear tire carrier was indeed an option but required when you ordered the limited slip rear end. I ordered my '84' without the carrier but it got kicked back from Ford, said I needed to get the rear rack and matching 205 when using the limited slip. I had ordered the 205 tires, that must have meant that the normal inside spare was maybe a 195. Sure don't remember the side panel being anything different than what my roommate had. How rare is a '84' BII with a four speed, that's what he had.
Dave - looking for pictures
H munster
09-24-2008, 05:55 PM
My 84 has the 4 sp. Wish I had the 5. No spare tire carrier. I dont think anything but a donut will fit in the hatch area.
My 84 has the 4 sp. Wish I had the 5. No spare tire carrier. I dont think anything but a donut will fit in the hatch area.
Thanks for confirming what my old mind remembered. Room mate was looking for something like a BII. I helped him, looked at all the others out there. Ended up that we both bought BII's.
Dave
pontiac_fiero_g
09-28-2008, 08:46 PM
i have buckets in my 86 b2
Randy M.
10-12-2008, 09:23 PM
This is a rumor list.
1. Pop out Side windows-There is doccumentation that says there were. Owners manual discusses how to remove and store them.
There is a gentlemen in Lancaster, Ohio that has an '84 with a 10/83 production date that has the pop out window's and he has the storage bags with them. He's the original owner. I do have his number here somewhere, let me get a hold of him and get pictures.
2. Rear bucket seats-There are reports that they are out there. No pictures to back it.
3. 4.0L B2 in late 1990-No proof that they exist. If Ford made Prototypes then they would never have been sold, and likey to have been dismantled. 1991 was the intro of the Explorer. Someone that started the rumor likley saw an Explorer Sport 2 door and thought it was a new B2.
I have now seen two of these. The first at a salvage yard (didn't have my camera) the second at a bodyshop. I have posted pic's, including a picture of the emission sticker. Both had production dates of 5/90. From what I understand, they were special order only.
4. 8.8 rear axle.- Rumor and no proof of existance.
5. D35 front axle-*Confirmed*. Nearly all 1990 models will have a D35 axle. 3.73 ratio is a guarantee.
6. M5OD 5 speed trans.-*Confirmed* Most if not all 1990 models will have this as a manual trans. 1989 saw the last of the FM146's.
7. Real 2wd trans without dummy case in 2wd models-Yes and no. later model ones are rumored to have a ranger 2wd trans. AllanD would be able to confirm this.
All I can think of at the moment.
As far as the "panel wagons" go...I found out that a custom shop in Bowling Green, KY. did make a set of bolt on panels to replace the windows. They were originally made for a courier company that was using B2s for intown delivery's in NYC, LA and Philly. The panels are fiberglass and have a raised lip around the edge. They had to use urethane to install them and from what I know, there was no interior panel. There were 125 set's of the panels made and 100 of them went to the courier company. The rest were sold to individuals and several went to Greenwood Ford and were sold thru the part's department. I had posted photo's of two of them on the original board back in 2000, but I believe all of that was lost.
AllanD
10-14-2008, 12:39 PM
what I want to see on an alleged factory 4.0 Bronco2 is the complete
vehicle WITH the VIN tag and the appropriate "X" in the eights position of the VIN code.
Because it's childishly easy to make a 4.0 look "factory" in a 1990 Bronco2.
IF you have a 1990 4.0 Ranger or a 1991 Explorer to use as a donor.
I've seen several 4.0 Bronco2's, ALL have been "constructs".
BTW, on the Rear bucket seats?
Those were Eddie Bauer seats in the PIC above and of the
four sets I've ever seen three were Eddie Bauer.
what's almost as "neat" is the zipper pouch on the backs of the front seats
Or the same cloth pattern used in Eddie Bauer seats in an Aerostar.
And while "mid position" buckets are seen in Aerostars those aren't
the "neatest" seats, what were are the two bench seats that fold
out flat into a bed (the normal Aerostar seats do not)
AD
BigRedB2
11-02-2008, 07:36 PM
http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216
:D
i used to own that. the guy who has now is selling. 2 grand and he'll throw in the rockwell axles for free, lol.
anyway, i can confirm..or re confirm rather, the sherrod conversion.
CopyKat
11-03-2008, 08:51 AM
i used to own that. the guy who has now is selling. 2 grand and he'll throw in the rockwell axles for free, lol.
anyway, i can confirm..or re confirm rather, the sherrod conversion.
And you should have gotten your ass kicked for taking on a large project with it. Should have left it the way it was.:annoyed::thefinger:
mn_smokeater
02-02-2009, 02:07 AM
my truck has a bracket in the back for my spare... i think its what you all were refering too. i can get a few pics if you would like. and i do have doubts over anything bigger by much then a doughnut fitting.
My bII has,
-eddie bouer trim
-power windows
-power locks
-Tinted rear windows
-vent windows (optional?)
-posi
-manual t-case
-manual hubs
-no roof rack
i had no idea vent windows would be optional hehe
mjonesjr
02-02-2009, 01:27 PM
My bII has,
-eddie bouer trim
-power windows
-power locks
-Tinted rear windows
-vent windows (optional?)
-posi
-manual t-case
-manual hubs
-no roof rack
i had no idea vent windows would be optional hehe
Those are standard options that could have been had on any Bronco II.
yeah i just realised i miss-read someones post on the tinted windows and vent windows...
AKBroncoII
02-03-2009, 10:58 PM
I owned an 85 BII with rear buckets. Rear buckets were identical to the front. I wish I wouldn't have scrapped it now. Front and rear power lumbar.
Chevelle Kid
02-04-2009, 12:18 AM
I owned an 85 BII with rear buckets. Rear buckets were identical to the front. I wish I wouldn't have scrapped it now. Front and rear power lumbar.
I know where my old buckets are going after I get a new set from a 1990 B2!!!! LOL
mjonesjr
02-04-2009, 09:28 AM
I owned an 85 BII with rear buckets. Rear buckets were identical to the front. I wish I wouldn't have scrapped it now. Front and rear power lumbar.
I wish I could find one of these in a yard somewhere. I would have them installed in my BII faster than a virgin in a hooker.
Tony Raine
02-05-2009, 02:57 PM
my BII had some options that are by no means rare, but odd in their configuration
84 Eddie Bauer
power lumbar
zipper "map pockets"
external tire carrier
tinted rear windows
eddie colors and badges
info center
but,
manual windows, locks, hubs, transfer case, transmission (4-speed)
no a/c, no cruise.
3.45 open gears
and the entire frame and underside of the body was undercoated from the factory.
basically the eddie bauer interior shoved into a base model.
Beanmachine7000
02-05-2009, 04:36 PM
My very first truck a '90 Ranger had manual everything, no power steering, 4-cylinder... A/C and cruise... I always thought that was weird... A truck with absolutely no options except A/C and cruise... it even had an AM radio... yeah no FM at all...
Totalled
02-06-2009, 09:11 PM
my BII had some options that are by no means rare, but odd in their configuration
85 Eddie Bauer
power lumbar
zipper "map pockets"
external tire carrier
tinted rear windows
eddie colors and badges
overhead clock.map light
Cruise control.
but,
manual windows, locks, hubs, transfer case, transmission (5-speed)
no a/c
3.45 open gears
basically the eddie bauer interior shoved into a base model.
That's mine.
mitch4x4
02-09-2009, 11:59 PM
My 88 has power windows, power locks, privacy glass, no roof rack, manual transmission,hubs,transfercase. and the little pockets on the seats between your legs, no tac just Oil pressure,gas,temp,volts. i also have day time running lights something my xlt ranger didnt have it was a 1990
batman45
03-24-2009, 09:17 PM
i know my uncles old 84/85? b2 came with the inside tire carrier, the panel was curved around the tire and there was a full size spare inside. As for taking pics ha i would never have thought about that 14 years ago, but i can say this though i knew it was odd and different and after all these years to never forget it:icon_rofl:
if the interior colour options make the difference as well, well the interior was beige
mn_smokeater
03-24-2009, 09:54 PM
i know my uncles old 84/85? b2 came with the inside tire carrier, the panel was curved around the tire and there was a full size spare inside. As for taking pics ha i would never have thought about that 14 years ago, but i can say this though i knew it was odd and different and after all these years to never forget it:icon_rofl:
if the interior colour options make the difference as well, well the interior was beige
il have a pic up of it once i get to cleaning it out haha
mjonesjr
04-29-2009, 06:36 PM
I guess the removable mirrors were still a rare option in '86. I just picked up this owners manual for my '86 today and it had these pages in them.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/lifted97ranger/100_6608.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/lifted97ranger/100_6609.jpg
madman_2
05-09-2009, 02:53 PM
i was wondering... i have a 91 explorer and was wondering how much work id have to do to change it from a 4.0 to 2.9. i know id have to change the ecm. but do i have to change the wiring harness too?
Taragon
05-19-2009, 04:03 PM
And you should have gotten your ass kicked for taking on a large project with it. Should have left it the way it was.:annoyed::thefinger:
I agree.
buzz88
07-04-2009, 01:16 PM
I did see rear buckets in a B2 in a junkyard a few years ago, I remember thinking they were cool. From what I remember they were black seats with orange stripes and had zip up pouches on the back of the seats definitely were not aftermarket, there may have even been some type of rear console from what i remember.
Boggin-B-Series
07-04-2009, 01:40 PM
Here is another one.
Non tinted rear and side windows. I've heard of them but not sure they were available.
my donor is tint-less
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/Boggin-B-Series/bronco-1.jpg
kroed11581
07-24-2009, 05:52 PM
I had an 84 BII that had a donut spare inside and also a spare tire rack on the back. Oh, and no roof rack and the hatch and openable back window didn't have a lock, which I found weird.
Mudhound
08-03-2009, 07:31 PM
My 84 BII has tinted side glass, two-tone doorskins and dash, 5-speed, manual 'case and hubs, "capped" bumpers and a 7/07/83 build date, but the side galss is fixed. :( Oh, and A/C, no tilt, no cruise, no power doors, but opening wing windows, with a "Buckskin" interior. Side "pockets" or "cubbies" on the side trim pieces in the back, too.
USMCFords
08-31-2009, 03:23 PM
My B2 that I just picked up has a cargo cover for the rear. My fullsize came with one too, and they are somewhat rare in the FS.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m184/rangeranger44/SANY0316.jpg
mjonesjr
08-31-2009, 03:28 PM
My B2 that I just picked up has a cargo cover for the rear. My fullsize came with one too, and they are somewhat rare in the FS.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m184/rangeranger44/SANY0316.jpg
Those were on almost all BII's.
BlackBII
08-31-2009, 03:37 PM
Those were on almost all BII's.
True. But they are almost all MIA.
mjonesjr
08-31-2009, 03:45 PM
True. But they are almost all MIA.
True.
koda6966
08-31-2009, 03:49 PM
My 84 BII has tinted side glass, two-tone doorskins and dash, 5-speed, manual 'case and hubs, "capped" bumpers and a 7/07/83 build date, but the side galss is fixed. :( Oh, and A/C, no tilt, no cruise, no power doors, but opening wing windows, with a "Buckskin" interior. Side "pockets" or "cubbies" on the side trim pieces in the back, too.
what do you mean by opening wing windows?
BlackBII
08-31-2009, 04:31 PM
what do you mean by opening wing windows?
Most likely, he means the 'smoker' window. (A triangular window that 'wings' open on both front doors.)
Mudhound
08-31-2009, 05:12 PM
Yeah, sometimes they are referred to as "smokers' windows". Not all of the BIIs' had opening wings. Mine also still has the original floor mats that say Bronco II on the front mats, and Ford on the rear ones. I even have the original spare tire cover, but it is in sad condition.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g221/ijir/BII%20AC%20SYSTEM/DSCF1845.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g221/ijir/BII%20AC%20SYSTEM/DSCF1846.jpg
slobby351
09-18-2009, 02:39 AM
there are rear bucket seats in the sport b2
koda6966
09-18-2009, 10:52 AM
Damn, I was hoping it was one with opening side windows.
detty_motorsports
09-22-2009, 10:29 AM
i have seen rear buckets....
detty_motorsports
09-22-2009, 10:34 AM
they where available.
slobby351
09-27-2009, 01:40 AM
i rolled my 90 b2 it was a 2 wheel drive with a true two drive trans i put a welded d28 in it with 33s it did not hold up i put a d35 then rolled it now putting a d30 jeep wit leaf springs in it with full exco cage with inter cage cage with all bucket seets and 4 5 point harness in it
adsm08
10-17-2009, 05:48 PM
I have a 1990 4.0 Ranger and two '90 BII's....I had a thread earlier trying to decide what to do with them....
You could give me one :icon_twisted:
rockin86ranger
11-15-2009, 07:20 PM
I have also seen one with no windows...It may have been custom, but it looked so clean and well done I thought it was factory. I dont know who would do all that work, I mean, the body work was incredible.
Anyone have any pics of one of these i would love to see it cause thats kinda what i want to do with mine
twoll86
12-11-2009, 06:46 AM
http://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/1499036260.html
this bronco has a factory 8.8 but has had the 4.0 swaped in it
i looked @ it my self and the build date for the axle is in late 1989
CopyKat
12-11-2009, 10:11 AM
http://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/1499036260.html
this bronco has a factory 8.8 but has had the 4.0 swaped in it
i looked @ it my self and the build date for the axle is in late 1989
I don't buy that it's got a factory 8.8. If the guy can swap a 4.0L into it than an 8.8 swap is a walk in the park. Show me a factory B2 that has 3.55 gears and I may be convinced.
twoll86
12-12-2009, 10:23 AM
i looked @ it when the previos owner had it and talked to him and he SAID(dont know if its true or not) is that the 8.8 was already in it and all he did was swap the 4.0 but idk for sure if its true
just thought this would be a good thread to post these pics of the '87 Bronco from Ford... since "classy" women always drive B2s!
http://vintage-original-ads.com/Pictures/albums/uploads/1987-Ford-Bronco-II.jpg
Mudhound
01-10-2010, 09:51 AM
Somehow, I don't think that the "classy women" were an option, at least from the factory/dealership, anyway. I def. would have optioned one, though.
mini~horse
02-17-2010, 07:34 PM
what about a factory tach?
also my back seats split and fold down in my '88 bll
adsm08
02-24-2010, 07:31 PM
I think we found a 90 B2 out in Kentucky that has a factory 4.0. Emissions sticker matches and everything.
CopyKat
02-24-2010, 09:09 PM
what about a factory tach?
also my back seats split and fold down in my '88 bll
Tach was an option 50/50. Fold down back seats was standard. All but the highback's got them.
I think we found a 90 B2 out in Kentucky that has a factory 4.0. Emissions sticker matches and everything.
Easly duplicated with a ranger core support. Vin number may tell more of the story.
adsm08
02-24-2010, 10:04 PM
I can't remember who posted the find, but he claimed that the VIN matched up too. Thing is somewhere in the back woods of Kentucky. Reportedly in good shape too.
Mudhound
02-25-2010, 11:41 AM
Kopykat. I think that the 4.0 BII being dicussed is the one that I found over by Morehead/Grayson. It was driven in, supposedly, becuase the old man that owned had died, and the family didn't want it,so they junked it. That is what I was told at the counter, anyways. I need to get back over there, and see if I can get some pictures of it.
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