B2 removable side windows

[CopyKat]

Anyone seen one? Aparently 84 may have been a couple. It was planned as it was in the owners manual on how to remove them.

Needle in a haystack.

Someone must have better pictures than the brochure ones.

[dusto2]

ok man now you got me thinking about this. so i looked around for like a hour on the net, stared at my bII for a while; thought the pics of the latches looked easy enough to find replacements for the removable hinge and the latches. easy enough the lower latches could probably come from modified ranger or some other extended cab rear pop out windows, or the tool chest stlye latches could probably work, though i think you could get the modifed pop out window hinges to look better(trim the side panel so 2 of those per side will sit somewhat flush when closed). and for the upper dont know just yet. but as far as mounting i was thinking of this http://www.drillglass.com/drillingglass.html?OVRAW=drilling%20glass&OVKEY=drilling%20glass&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=17026228521&OVKWID=3350569021 and simply using the hardware that mounts from the pop out hinges so they look smooth on the outside. know mind you this is all just a quick thought late at night bored:dntknw: buzzed:beer::beer::beer: and curious:D


also i found an old link that shows a pic where a guy drilled small holes in a couple panels and simply unbolted them, and put a blanking plug in the holes to cover them up

[CopyKat]

:icon_bounceblue: Someone thinking on the same wave length as me for once.:icon_bounceblue:

[dusto2]

ya once you said i had to look for all i could find and it looks like you could do it, i really like the idea alot once i finish my paint and lift that looks like something i want to do, on a hot socal day that would be very nice especially on a trail ride it would be very nice, good luck to ya i hope you get it done i cant wait to see this one be finished

[dusto2]

it funny lots of views and no one else thinks this is a great idea like us

[CopyKat]

I tried with a carbide Birr bit and it went POP. I guess tempered glass was not made to drill into.

[Jimmeh]

I tried with a carbide Birr bit and it went POP. I guess tempered glass was not made to drill into.

Heh, Woops.

I could have sworn I have seen a B2 on the net with the windows off....

Not sure if you could do it, but maybe if you head to a local glass shop, see if they can possibly get the holes drilled for you, or ass them how to do it properly. THERE HAS GOT TO BE A WAY!

[AKBroncoII]

I am fairly certain you can't drill tempered glass. As soon as you chip the temper it will explode. Holes are put in when it is still molten. Maybe you could use some sort of glue and a track. Like the wing windows are on a 2 door explorer. Maybe you could use a hinge and latches from a conversion van. They are much longer windows.

[dusto2]

did you go to that site i posted they say on there if you use a diamond bit that you can do it slowly with alot of oiling to keep it cool

[AllanD]

It's in the '85 owners manual too, and I've been looking for a B2
with them for close to 20 years.

It's literally the holy grail of Bronco2 parts.

IT's probably the only option more rare than the rear bucket seats.

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[dusto2]

i would still like to see thebucket seats one that sounds good
and boggin thats what the latches look like from the pics in the manual, they look like a tbar with latches that look like rear pop out window latches

[CopyKat]

It's in the '85 owners manual too, and I've been looking for a B2
with them for close to 20 years.

It's literally the holy grail of Bronco2 parts.

IT's probably the only option more rare than the rear bucket seats.

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Not to mention the 4.0L and 8.8 equipped B2's of 1990.

Getting holes made isn't so much of a problem it's what issues will rise from it once done.

If those windows are so brittle that you tap them wrong and they shatter what kind of issues did Ford have? I believe this would be the reason for not going with it. Without super clean holes any bump or jaring and you'd have blown out glass. Not to mention I know how long it takes to get an engineering change through the system to update manuals. Hence the reason it was in the 84 and 85 manuals.

The idea is there but the glass is what would determine if it was a success or not. Ford did not have this figured out. The top curved part would have posed the most issues as clamping the window down would stress this area.

My thoughts would be that the first few that were in testing were having issues with blown out glass that they decided to just bond them in instead. Likely all the working prototypes were reworked this way. In 86 the windows were changed out for bolt in kind and different trim was used.

This is only speculation on my part, so take it for what it is.

It's likely easier to remove the windows and install polly w/canvas ones. It would make removal and stow alot easier. But this would come down to how well it was done. I have ideas, I just need to get to them.

[Boggin]

i would still like to see thebucket seats one that sounds good
and boggin thats what the latches look like from the pics in the manual, they look like a tbar with latches that look like rear pop out window latches


oh I see,

but, If you wanna drill holes why not use plexy-glass, you can drill in them cant you?

[dusto2]

really you could do it plex isnt that hard to work with and form, i actually maid a mask for my buddy in iraq (army soldier) it is half ballistics resin, and 1"lexan, and it was really easy to bend and form actually came out really nice too. i dont see why it cant be made from plexi glass

[Boggin]

really you could do it plex isnt that hard to work with and form, i actually maid a mask for my buddy in iraq (army soldier) it is half ballistics resin, and 1"lexan, and it was really easy to bend and form actually came out really nice too. i dont see why it cant be made from plexi glass

yea well I will be getting the B2 soon so I will look at it and see what I can come up with

[AKBroncoII]

I bought a parts BII years ago. It was an 85. The only thing I regret now is not pulling the rear bucket seats. They were lumbar seats also. I've never seen another one.

[CopyKat]

I bought a parts BII years ago. It was an 85. The only thing I regret now is not pulling the rear bucket seats. They were lumbar seats also. I've never seen another one.

And no pictures?? Shame on you!:nono:

I've thought about adding some low back buckets in, but you would loose the tumble and fold flat feature.:dunno:

[WhiteBroncoII2WD]

If you ever have the rear glass removed from a truck, look closely at the opening and you'll find the "bosses" where the hinges were suppose to go. I too would love to see this done.

[WhiteBroncoII2WD]

really you could do it plex isnt that hard to work with and form, i actually maid a mask for my buddy in iraq (army soldier) it is half ballistics resin, and 1"lexan, and it was really easy to bend and form actually came out really nice too. i dont see why it cant be made from plexi glass

I too believe that plezi glass could be a viable material to make something look decent and still be practical with means to remove. Someone just needs to start with project…..with pictures:D

[CheapThrillB2]

never seen the manuals with the removable side windows, but could they be refering to the side windows from the Bronco 2 plus models? instead of the std B2 side windows?

[WhiteBroncoII2WD]

never seen the manuals with the removable side windows, but could they be refering to the side windows from the Bronco 2 plus models? instead of the std B2 side windows?


I wish I could remember where I saw it, but I saw an online copy of a brochure that showed a guy removing the rear side windows from a regular Bronco II

[CopyKat]

never seen the manuals with the removable side windows, but could they be refering to the side windows from the Bronco 2 plus models? instead of the std B2 side windows?

The 84 and 85 owners manual will have it. There is pictures of the pages floating around. I don't remember where I saw them. May have been the Explorer forums. There is also a color brochure showing a red one and the dude is removing the passenger side one.

[CheapThrillB2]

wasn't sure, like i said i hadn't seen a brochure.

[WhiteBroncoII2WD]

The 84 and 85 owners manual will have it. There is pictures of the pages floating around. I don't remember where I saw them. May have been the Explorer forums. There is also a color brochure showing a red one and the dude is removing the passenger side one.

that's the brochure I remember seeing

[CopyKat]

Found it.

http://broncoiipopoutsidewindow.homestead.com/index.html

[BlackBII]

That's frickin cool.

Im going to find one. You just watch.

[CopyKat]

That's frickin cool.

Im going to find one. You just watch.

If AllanD has been looking to no avail, I say Good Luck.

That red one on the brochure is prolly the only one and it was likely reworked and bonded windows put in.

[WhiteBroncoII2WD]

If AllanD has been looking to no avail, I say Good Luck.

That red one on the brochure is prolly the only one and it was likely reworked and bonded windows put in.

who knows, he BlackBII could be the lucky one

[BlackBII]

Or I will make one:D

[AllanD]

I bought a parts BII years ago. It was an 85. The only thing I regret now is not pulling the rear bucket seats. They were lumbar seats also. I've never seen another one.

The bucket seats were themselves not special, what was special was the sheet metal brackets that the seats were bolted to.

they were fairly simple brackets because they had no provisions for the seats to be adjustable.

The tumble-fold feature of the bronco2 is overrated, cargo capacity?
Beyond a load of groceries how much room do you really need?

My issue was that every time I ever sat in the back of a bronco2 it was a cast-iron SOB for me to get out of the folding seat.
The seat bottom isn't latched down and tends to "tumble" forward
as you try to get out of it.

Frankly I'd put highback seats (gen2 ranger or early explorer)
or seats with headrests (Ala' Turbocoupe or Mustang GT)
in the back.

Yeah, "lumbar" seats are nice but seats with Lumbar AND adjustable side bolsters are even neater.

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[WhiteBroncoII2WD]

Call me crazy, but I've never really taken notice as to whether or not the rear seats were bucket seat in the Bronco IIs I've come across in the junk yards. Now of course, I’ll be looking.

[Danger06Ranger]

The idea is there but the glass is what would determine if it was a success or not. Ford did not have this figured out. The top curved part would have posed the most issues as clamping the window down would stress this area.

That may be true, but what about the glass T-tops in 1976-81 Firebirds and 1982-87 Grand Nationals?

[CopyKat]

That may be true, but what about the glass T-tops in 1976-81 Firebirds and 1982-87 Grand Nationals?

They are drilled and smoothed before tempering.

I experimented on one of the vent windows of the parts truck and I was nearly through with the carbide Burr. I had stopped to clean the tip and make sure it wasn't plugged. As soon as the tip touched the bottom of the hole I was making, POP, it was done.

You can get the diamond bits on Ebay for pretty cheap but I still don't trust it to last.

The only other way to do it would be to find a good adhiesive ment for bonding brackets to glass. Similar to the rear view mirror adhiesive.

[Totalled]

Besides the fragility of the glass they probably didn't seal worth a shit... I imagine the probable wind noise and water leak warranty claims killed it faster than anything.

I have scans of a 1985 sales brochure I purchased that lists them as an option.

http://broncoii.org/pats/New%20Folder/

[swamprat]

There is a blue BII in Lexington Kentucky with the pop out wondows. Hinges from the top. It is blue with a bad tint job. I have never seen it with the windows open but noticed the latches one day. Seen it couple of times on the north side of town.

[engdept]

There is a blue BII in Lexington Kentucky with the pop out wondows. Hinges from the top. It is blue with a bad tint job. I have never seen it with the windows open but noticed the latches one day. Seen it couple of times on the north side of town.
If you can find it again, see if the owner will sell it. I will drive down there and buy it.

[CopyKat]

I just want to see a picture of this Unicorn. There has been so much talk about it and no one can confirm it's existance, better yet prove it.

[WhiteBroncoII2WD]

There is a blue BII in Lexington Kentucky with the pop out wondows. Hinges from the top. It is blue with a bad tint job. I have never seen it with the windows open but noticed the latches one day. Seen it couple of times on the north side of town.

That would certainly be a great picture to have posted...you're going to have to stop the guy and say hello, no doubt about it.

[doug95sc]

I was selling Ford trucks back in '84 and the removable windows were illustrated in the sales literature but the option was on a hold which turned into a never became available. Think the cart was slightly ahead of the horse there.

[nightshift]

You could probably do it with Lexan (aka polycarbonate). In 2002, I got a 5' x 8' x 1/4" bronze-tinted sheet from GE Plastics for about $280. Lexan is super-tough! You can cut it, drill it, & bend it easily, unlike acrylic sheet. The only trick would be making a jig to duplicate the curve at the top of the glass. It would be interesting to try.

[dieselboy740]

this would be sweet if some could find them. I'm just going to make mine removable by pulling the bolts out of them. I'm way suprised that the side windows didn't blow when I rolled my bronco. When I built the exocage I made shure that I could still remove the windows.

[The Jester Race]

When I built the exocage I made shure that I could still remove the windows.

You got any pics of your exocage? Im dieing to see one on a B2.

-Jester

[WhiteBroncoII2WD]

You could probably do it with Lexan (aka polycarbonate). In 2002, I got a 5' x 8' x 1/4" bronze-tinted sheet from GE Plastics for about $280. Lexan is super-tough! You can cut it, drill it, & bend it easily, unlike acrylic sheet. The only trick would be making a jig to duplicate the curve at the top of the glass. It would be interesting to try.

so who's going to front the money here? :icon_confused:

[Randy M.]

OK. I have seen one myself. Here is a way that we can end this once and for all.

Go to Car-Part.com

Choose 1984 Bronco II

(oh, explnd seach to entire us)

Look under Quarter Glass

Coose Movable left or right

There are several yards that have the windows. Anyone live near any of these yards???

Go get pic's.

[mjonesjr]

OK. I have seen one myself. Here is a way that we can end this once and for all.

Go to Car-Part.com

Choose 1984 Bronco II

(oh, explnd seach to entire us)

Look under Quarter Glass

Coose Movable left or right

There are several yards that have the windows. Anyone live near any of these yards???

Go get pic's.
The closest one to me is in Detroit....

[BlackBII]

Looks like I'm going down to Genola this Saturday.

If they still have it, I'll get picks

[TwoWhels]

There is a left one in Roswell, NM LOL LOL
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[kevinsranger]

not sure if you guys are interested in something like this, but i found it on craigs list http://newjersey.craigslist.org/pts/944453557.html

[mjonesjr]

I sure would like to have a good set of '86 BII owners manuals.