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jobar
08-10-2008, 03:38 PM
What upgrades can I do to a 7.5 rear (besides swaping it out for a 8.8) to help with towing.
bottledgt
08-10-2008, 04:47 PM
dont waste your time
mkpecor
08-10-2008, 04:59 PM
what are you towin? if any regear the truck. but you should be fine. i have towed lots of shit with rangers over the years and never gernaded one.
jobar
08-10-2008, 07:49 PM
what are you towin? if any regear the truck. but you should be fine. i have towed lots of shit with rangers over the years and never gernaded one.
Its not a matter of what im towing its a matter how many times im towing. Im towing at least 3 times a week. I didnt think that my wimpy 7.5 rear would hold up.
rickcdewitt
08-11-2008, 10:01 AM
Its not a matter of what im towing its a matter how many times im towing. Im towing at least 3 times a week. I didnt think that my wimpy 7.5 rear would hold up.making a high capacity diff cover would help with heat.the small bearings are the main problem though
You've got to consider the heaving and jerking that are transmitted into the axle by the trailer. All that added weight gives the ring gear a surge. More force can come through the axle from the wheel than the engine could give it I'm willing to bet. Add to that the fact that you have the axle shaft loaded with weight with a semi floater and you have a bending force as well as the surging twisting force on the same part at the same time. Maybe you could upgrade the axle shafts, but if they got more resistant to torsional loads, more force would make it's way to the ring gear--sort of like a trailer with no springs on it. The best thing is to upgrade the whole axle at the same time by getting a 31-spline Explorer axle. A Ranger 8.8 isn't an upgrade--it's rated at the same load capacity as the 7.5.
The rear end is not your limiting hardware. The engine will stall before you blow out the diff. A 7.5" hypoid gear can take a LOT of force. And you'd blow out a tire long before you'd snap an axle shaft off.
Worry about the bumper, the brakes, the tranny, the tires, the engine, and the suspension before the rear end.
If you do a lot of heavy towing it is a good idea to change the gear oil on a more frequent basis.
4x4junkie
08-11-2008, 06:18 PM
The 7.5 is going to generate more heat under load than a 8.8 though, due to the higher contact pressures associated with the gears being smaller.
I'd say with a finned cover or something on it to help it cool better, you'll be fine. The engines that 7.5s are normally paired with shouldn't be too much for it.
Hahnsb2
08-11-2008, 09:49 PM
Run some Amsoil (or any other good synthetic) in it as well, it will run cooler, I was amazed how good mine looked in side and I even set the backlash a bit loose at 0.020". I didn't find any fine metal either which I expected from the locker teeth over-running eachother.
racsan
08-12-2008, 10:30 AM
ive got a 8.8 and ive added a summit cover that has load studs that go up against the bearing caps. its sometimes refered to as a axle girdle. it also adds about 1/2 quart to the fill capacity. im running a valvloine synthetic 80w 90 gear oil, it was on clearance at a local meijers. if nothing else, just change the oil and it should be fine. my '88 with a 7.5 pulled alot of things and never had a rear diff issue. and it had over 100K when i bought it. had over 200K when i traded it off, trans was noisy with a sloppy shifter, but diff cover had never been off. with the 2.3 you would really have to be abusive to break anything, you might want to re-gear. its a good motor, but doesnt have alot of tourque. id run 4.10's minimum i were to pull much with it.http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l241/racsan_2006/Picture038.jpg
jobar
08-18-2008, 03:55 PM
Hey rascan, I looked into getting a diff cover like yours but could find anything at summit for the 7.5.
bottledgt
08-18-2008, 09:46 PM
The rear end is not your limiting hardware. The engine will stall before you blow out the diff. A 7.5" hypoid gear can take a LOT of force. And you'd blow out a tire long before you'd snap an axle shaft off.
no...really the spiders would explode first. thats the crap part about a 7.5
pyro4fun
08-18-2008, 10:03 PM
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The best thing is to upgrade the whole axle at the same time by getting a 31-spline Explorer axle. A Ranger 8.8 isn't an upgrade--it's rated at the same load capacity as the 7.5.
hay Will, Not to call you out and i may be wrong but i thought all 8.8's with 31 spline axles where rated the same?:icon_confused:
the only difference that i knew of was the shock and spring mounts where different between Explorer's and Rangers?:icon_confused:
Jspafford
08-18-2008, 10:58 PM
I would upgrade a motor or transmission before I worried about the axle. If you've towed it 'three times a week' already and it's held up, it will probably be fine.
If not, then swap in the bigger axle. Your not out anything if it doesn't break... and if it does, well then you have a good reason to swap.
I've towed with mine quite a bit and have had no issues. Had the truck sitting still chained to a stuck trailer with all 4 wheel spinning... still works fine.
FYI
Hahnsb2
08-18-2008, 11:35 PM
no...really the spiders would explode first. thats the crap part about a 7.5
True, the spiders do suck, nothing a locker can't fix though :D
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hay Will, Not to call you out and i may be wrong but i thought all 8.8's with 31 spline axles where rated the same?:icon_confused:
the only difference that i knew of was the shock and spring mounts where different between Explorer's and Rangers?:icon_confused:
Ranger 8.8s are 28 spline, same shafts as the 7.5...
bottledgt
08-18-2008, 11:36 PM
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hay Will, Not to call you out and i may be wrong but i thought all 8.8's with 31 spline axles where rated the same?:icon_confused:
the only difference that i knew of was the shock and spring mounts where different between Explorer's and Rangers?:icon_confused:
31's probably are, but 'standard'8.8's are 28 spline just like 7.5's. axles aint the weak link though. the spider gears are
racsan
08-19-2008, 01:19 AM
i was looking at my summit book just today, youre right. no cover like mine available for the 7.5, my 8.8 is the "old" 28 spline unit, im limited on locker choices myself. if i were looking to upgrade, id see about a whole complete axle assy from a salvage yard, you aybe ale to get a 4.10 with a toresen l/s. (hey, they made 'em, it could be out there somewhere)
jobar
08-19-2008, 07:20 AM
Ok, ill check my local junk yards and see if anybody has the 8.8 ranger/explorer axle. Would rather have the explorer axle more than the ranger.
jobar
08-19-2008, 07:31 AM
I would upgrade a motor or transmission before I worried about the axle. If you've towed it 'three times a week' already and it's held up, it will probably be fine.
If not, then swap in the bigger axle. Your not out anything if it doesn't break... and if it does, well then you have a good reason to swap.
I've towed with mine quite a bit and have had no issues. Had the truck sitting still chained to a stuck trailer with all 4 wheel spinning... still works fine.
FYI
I've got a 4 banger and there arent to many upgrades for them. Mabey a intake upgrade, and exhaust, but thats about it. You cant really upgrade them to well.
Mabey I can steal a turbo off of one of the planes at work. Fab up some custom tubing and run a airplane turbo capable of 60 psi of boost, on my ranger.:icon_thumby:Thats the only upgrade I can think of.
rickcdewitt
08-19-2008, 08:29 AM
the 2.3l is almost as upgradable as the small block.how many horses do you want?200? 400?(not that you would want to tow with a 400 horse 2.3)
i'de go with the 4.10 axle first though
jobar
08-19-2008, 03:13 PM
Well, im pushin 112 hp stock. Around 115 with a K&N. 200 hp would be awsome to have but, how do I go about getting that out of a 4 banger.
rickcdewitt
08-20-2008, 09:21 AM
look in the forced induction forum at the turbo coupe and merkur turbo swaps and SEARCH THE NET
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