6000 miles and already worn out!?

grapegoat · Sep 12, 2007

I have a 93' ranger 4.0L 4x4, 150,000 miles on it. I just got a new clutch and a rebuilt tranny put in it in February. Now my throwout bearing is making the worst noise. It rattles so bad that it makes my truck almost sound like a diesel. My tranny is starting to whine in 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th gear as well. Besides annoying the crap out of me, the truck runs and drives fine. If you had the stereo cranked up, you wouldn't even know. I wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed and went cheep on the clutch. It is a Luk brand clutch. My theory is it is a crap clutch and is already starting to fail. I think that the clutch has thrown my tranny out of alignment and that is whats causing it to start making noise. My tranny is under warranty but my clutch is not. So my questions are,

Any one ever have this same problem?

Is my crap clutch theory accurate?

should I replace it with a ford factory clutch?

am I going to have to replace the tranny again?

how much longer will this clutch/tranny last, Ballpark estimate?

Im pretty darn p.o. about this, I appreciate all the help I can get. thanks

MAKG · Sep 12, 2007

No, you have a failing transmission. The clutch is likely fine.

I'd have a word with that transmission rebuilder if I were you. Unless you put gear oil in it...

grapegoat · Sep 12, 2007

MAKG said:
Unless you put gear oil in it...

the installation was done by the top mechanic in my town. It says on the invoice that NAPA DEXRON MERCON was used.

Is that the right stuff?

So its my tranny that is going out?

What makes you think that?

Could it be damaging my throwout bearing? because when stopped and the truck is in neutral, I disengage (push in) the clutch and the noise stops, then when I engage it (release pedal), the noise starts again. the tranny makes a seperate, higher pitch noise when in motion.

MAKG · Sep 12, 2007

The every-gear-but-4th noise is a classic transmission problem. There are a couple of parts in the transmission it might be, but really nothing outside it can do that. It's often accompanied by noises in neutral.

When you push the clutch in, if it's working correctly, the transmission stops spinning even in neutral. You can try the same test with the vehicle rolling, and I'll bet it makes SOME noise then. It won't be any different for the release bearing.

Mercon ATF is the correct fluid for this transmission.

grapegoat · Sep 12, 2007

MAKG said:
The every-gear-but-4th noise is a classic transmission problem. There are a couple of parts in the transmission it might be, but really nothing outside it can do that. It's often accompanied by noises in neutral.

When you push the clutch in, if it's working correctly, the transmission stops spinning even in neutral. You can try the same test with the vehicle rolling, and I'll bet it makes SOME noise then. It won't be any different for the release bearing.

Mercon ATF is the correct fluid for this transmission.

yeah I have been doing a few tests to it. when rolling I put it in neutral and hold in the clutch, no noise what so ever, when rolling I put in neutral and release the clutch, very little to no noise, then like you said, every gear but 4th whines like hell. Im calling the shop tomorrow and getting me a new one. thanks for the help.

Wicked_Sludge · Sep 13, 2007

i am on my second throwout bearing from napa. both have made a soft rumbling noise while released from day one.

the first was replaced with 20k on it on a non-T/O bearing related issue (i had the tranny out, so it got replaced) and was still like new when i pitched it...with no damage to the pressure plate forks or the T/O bearing face. personally, im not too worried about it and i dont think you should be either.

the tranny noise is a whole different story. get it replaced (hope the shop you got it from doesnt try to hassle you)

grapegoat · Sep 13, 2007

Wicked_Sludge said:
(hope the shop you got it from doesnt try to hassle you)

they shouldn't, My whole family has gotten all there work done at that shop. the owner knows us by name. I went to high school with his son. they are good people. I called them today and I got an appointment to take it in on Monday. Im still 3500 miles within the warranty, I got the receipts and the invoice still. Shouldn't be a problem. It better not be :pissedoff:

no trucky, no worky.

Natedog · Sep 14, 2007

MAKG said:
No, you have a failing transmission. The clutch is likely fine.

I'd have a word with that transmission rebuilder if I were you. Unless you put gear oil in it...

X2.........

grapegoat · Sep 17, 2007

thought I would give an update. I took it to the shop this morning. like you all said. tranny is failing, the owner of the shop got on the phone with the tranny rebuilder and gave him a good long talkin to :taunt:

. its gettin a new one in a couple days. :icon_hornsup:

Wicked_Sludge · Sep 17, 2007

glad everything is working out for you. hopefully the next tranny wont be a lemon.

grapegoat · Sep 17, 2007

Wicked_Sludge said:
glad everything is working out for you. hopefully the next tranny wont be a lemon.

Thanks man. If the next one is a lemon, I will officially claim myself as the most unlucky person In the world :bawling:

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grapegoat · Sep 17, 2007

the mechanic called me and said when he drained my tranny fluid, there was a bunch of metal in it. :3gears:

Wicked_Sludge · Sep 17, 2007

huh..some rebuild :annoyed:

MAKG · Sep 18, 2007

Well, that's what we suspected.

Hopefully the next one will be better.

Natedog · Sep 18, 2007

MAKG said:
Well, that's what we suspected.

Hopefully the next one will be better.

Yeah no surprise there.

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