got new speakers...cant put them in??

funkingonutz · May 4, 2008

alright, ive just bought some Pioneer 6x8's with 240watt peak power and i want to put them in...but......my friend who is a home electrition,sais i could'nt without purchacing an 200 watt amp, i asked why and he said that if i put them in i will blow them because there is not enough power going to them. :icon_confused:

that does'nt sound right, if TO MUCH power goes to them then they would blow DUH??!!

o yeah and he said they will blow because of my head unit, i dont know why.
My head unit is an older Pioneer 50wx4...so 200w head unit.

flyingbrick · May 4, 2008

What is the RMS of the speakers? You should be able to run them off deck power but they just won’t have the sound level that they are capable off.

igiveup · May 4, 2008

Hello

At 50 watts a channel it will cook the speaker. Distortion is cause by being under power also.

igiveup

colinrmitchell · May 4, 2008

flyingbrick is right. They will work fine, should sound great. Wire them in.

And eventually, get a 200W amp! :c-n:

colinrmitchell · May 4, 2008

I've worked a bit with speakers and amps.

http://gozips.uakron.edu/~crm23/amplifier/Amplifier.htm

The speakers will work great, most likely much better than stock. You can't "underpower" a speaker. That's bunk.

Gum-B · May 5, 2008

If under powered speakers were a real issue i would not have a job. I would advise anyone to ask an installer of mobile electronics before some one who wire homes. I can do anything as far as wiring in a car, in a home im lost. The speakers will play fine. An amp will help. It will allow you to drive them with more power and generally speaking cleaner power. And yes distortion is bad, but you can distort speakers with lots of power.

gotmudd · May 5, 2008

igiveup said:
Hello

At 50 watts a channel it will cook the speaker. Distortion is cause by being under power also.

igiveup

you my friend have smoked to much crack in your life :nopityA:

Mavrick70004 · May 5, 2008

Too bad he doesn't sell and install car electronics instead he could be a good scam artist and get people to buy an amp every time they buy a stereo or speakers haha. can speakers be underpowered? yes, can this destroy a speaker? eventually it can but this is only true because most of the time if a speaker is underpowered we crank up the volume to be able to hear it, and when cranked too high, the head unit starts producing distortion which in turn starts destroying the speakers. As far as the head unit, you could power them with the stock radio and they will still sound better. Back in the good ol days haha stereos used to be like only 1 watt so im not sure what he is talking about with your head unit blowing up your speakers.

Throw the damn things in and let us know how they sound!

igiveup · May 5, 2008

Hello

No crack this this guy. But I have cooked speakers being underpowered amps. Distortion will kill them. Since I have install amps I have not killed any. But who knows the last speaker I killed was years ago.

igiveup

Pistons23 · May 5, 2008

those speakers will work fine powered by your headunits internal amplifier. your headunits amplifier is rated at 50x4 but only really puts out 15-20watts. but underpowering speakers will not hurt them one bit. the only reason people think that is because they try to make their speakers "louder" so they boost the shit out of the signal. they turn the eq to the most powerful setting and turn the loud function to high.

igiveup · May 5, 2008

Pistons23 said:
those speakers will work fine powered by your headunits internal amplifier. your headunits amplifier is rated at 50x4 but only really puts out 15-20watts. but underpowering speakers will not hurt them one bit. the only reason people think that is because they try to make their speakers "louder" so they boost the shit out of the signal. they turn the eq to the most powerful setting and turn the loud function to high.

Ok ill go with that.

igiveup

funkingonutz · May 5, 2008

ok wow....lots of info guys....but lots of different opinions..im going to put them in, i dont listen to my music extremely loud :temper:

but it sometimes depends on my mood and what song is playing.
i usually have the volume at 8 or 10...,12 to 14 if im pissed or REALLY like the song.
the loud setting is all the way up and the EQ is at L-1 M+2 and H+3

so now do you think i will blow them without running a 200w amp??

BTW its a Pioneer head unit 50X4
anyone with the same one hit me up and tell me what you run your settings at.its the green one not the pink one. :yahoo:

drakezilla · May 5, 2008

just put in 2-5x7 200w 3-way in the doors with new head unit 50x4...sound friggin awesome!! do it!!

funkingonutz · May 6, 2008

alright im doing it tonight after work ill tell ya how they sound :headbang:

absolutesantaja · May 6, 2008

I work in professional audio doing sound and lighting for theatrical productions. I've never heard anyone say that you can mess up a speaker but underpowering it.... Everything we run is underpower because we don't want some idiot to be able to turn up the volume loud enough to blow the speakers we install. On the other hand if you run the amp loud enough for it to start clipping aka. distorting then you can end up putting a lot more power out than the amp would normally and it can destroy speakers and amps if they get hot enough. You should be fine with those speakers just don't turn them up so loud they start crackling.

Shawn

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