View Full Version : I have a 1994 i want to bag.
Zipity
04-24-2008, 09:33 AM
i have already lowered it using the djm ibeams and the blocks and flip kit in the back. minus the kit (I.E. valves, tank, compressor, bags and 4 link) is there anything else do you guys think i need to buy? This is going to be a do it myself. so anyone also have any good article write ups on it.
Oh one last question. would this be a problem if it was a daily driver? Driven about 30 miles a day. to and from work.
PFC Laird
04-24-2008, 10:29 AM
you get new shocks for it too?
if you dont you should really look into that next
by the way, how much did that stuff cost you altogether? How hard was it to put the flip kit on? i got a 2wd 94 also
Insanejughead
04-24-2008, 10:54 AM
I did my drop on my '94 a week ago. The flip kit was easy as long as you could twist the axle in place to clear the leaf springs across the brake drums.
My beams were a pain because of all the rusted bolts holding everything together.
I have pics if you'd like to see them.
PFC Laird
04-24-2008, 01:01 PM
yes please :)
was there any frame modification required with the flip?
Zipity
04-24-2008, 01:27 PM
well on the flip kit no mods needed. it was actually easy. i actually have another flip kit for sell.. i have some pictures.
this is the beginning
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/zipitydoda/truck/DSC02243.jpg
and this is after the flip kit plus 3inch blocks
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/zipitydoda/truck/DSC02242.jpg
i did the rear end in my drive way. but when i did the ibeams i went to a friends shop. I have already got the rear shocks in. the ones i wll use for my bag kit to. i paid 400 for the dream beams and the flip kit.
PFC Laird
04-24-2008, 01:45 PM
Oooo nice..
cuz i'd just recently purchased a kit to put on my truck when i get back from iraq.
full kit cost me $318 and then the shocks brought it up to $485, which i don't think that's bad at all.
PFC Laird
04-24-2008, 01:53 PM
Oh also, any problems clearing the stock exhaust in the rear?
Zipity
04-24-2008, 02:39 PM
naw.. but i ended up cutting the rear bracket off. I am actually of cutting my exhaust and having it come out near my rear passenger side tire.
bluovaldude
04-24-2008, 04:57 PM
Well zipity where would you liek me to start...
Besides the bags, valves, air line, compressor(s), air tank, and four link....
At least a 8in notch for the frame, relocate the fuel tank, if the frame comes close to the ground it is going to drag and put holes in it.
You will need a new transmission crossmember and radius arm relocator.
I will hightly suggest a lot of time, and very good set of air bags, A good welder, and some good friends to help you out.
If you got any more questions feel free to ask.
And if I think of anything else I will let you know.
Also one last thing... suicidedoors.com is going to be your best friend.
Zipity
04-24-2008, 05:18 PM
well I am the good wielder and when i start the bagging project. I think i am going to place the truck on out of commission status. I want it to be done right and i want to be able to drive this to work atleast 5 days a week when i finish it. I have found a lot of my items at FBIRIDES.com for a good price. I will be checking suicide doors out while i am at work tonight. would the best way to do this project is by striping the truck to bare frame our just bed off of it?
Has anyone seen a good write up on doing a 1994 ranger? Or a place i can see good detailed pictures? I found some good picture of the rear end on the mini trucking magazine website. but any help will be appreciated.
Zipity
04-24-2008, 10:24 PM
How does this kit look for my size truck. Anything I need bigger or smaller.
any advise will be helpful.
AVS ARC-9 Black 9 Rocker Switch w/lock
50ft of 3/8" DOT Reinforced Air Line
No 2nd Compressor
KP 200 PSI Single Needle
Viair Pressure Switch 110/145 PSI
Airlift Dominator 2500 Single Port (Rear Bags)
Black 5 Gallon 8 Port
Airlift Dominator 2500 Single Port (Front Bags)
SMC 3/8" Dump Valve
50ft of 1/4" DOT Reinforced Air Line
Viair 325 150 PSI Compressor
SMC 3/8" Fill Valve
KP 200 PSI Dual Needle
No Water Trap
bluovaldude
04-24-2008, 11:32 PM
I will recomend not going to FBIRIDES.com not such a great company and they do not have a four link kit long enough for you.
But as for what you posted that looks about right. But I would eithe recomend a larger air compressor or running 2 compressors and 2 tanks.
And with the 3/8 valves I would go ahead and use 1/2in air line, because they size the line by outside diameter. So basically the 1/2in line is really 3/8 inside diameter.
Zipity
04-25-2008, 03:50 PM
bluovaldude you sound like you know alot about the bagging kits. could you go to this website and put the cheapest/best kit for my truck together custom kits by suicide doors. (http://www.suicidedoors.com/custom.php)
bluovaldude
04-26-2008, 05:35 PM
bluovaldude you sound like you know alot about the bagging kits. could you go to this website and put the cheapest/best kit for my truck together custom kits by suicide doors. (http://www.suicidedoors.com/custom.php)
Well when I get home I will put you a kit together the way I would like it.
And throw up some links to what else I would recomend, but how much are you looking to spend ? I know I have somewhere around 2k into my bagged Ranger.
Zipity
04-26-2008, 08:40 PM
Well i want a kit that will last, with little problems when done right. probley under 2k would be great because i know the more you spend the better it is. i am looking for circle notches though.. are something different. I am trying to be a little different.
bluovaldude
04-26-2008, 09:30 PM
I understand the being different deal and thats cool, how else are you suppose to make your truck different from the guy down the street.
What are your plans with the bed ? Do you plan on going with a notch cover or just leave everything exposed ?
Also how big a wheel and tire combo will you be running ? That will definately determine what you will need to do under the hood to make everything work properly.
Zipity
04-26-2008, 10:51 PM
I understand the being different deal and thats cool, how else are you suppose to make your truck different from the guy down the street.
What are your plans with the bed ? Do you plan on going with a notch cover or just leave everything exposed ?
Also how big a wheel and tire combo will you be running ? That will definately determine what you will need to do under the hood to make everything work properly.
I think i am going with 17 in and low profile tires. i want to leave it open and weild some different type of brackets and what not inside it. maybe put the tanks under the bed and the compressor (s) on an angled wall that cover the fuel cell. I think i am going to smooth out the rear this summer. i have two tailgates i think i am going to peice together to smooth it out.
also do you know of any good active mini truck forums. i love this one though.. just looking for one with more answers then me asking the questions.
bluovaldude
04-27-2008, 12:39 PM
Well this is what I through together, *All Air Kits Include: Relay and Harness
Choose your Compressor
Air Zenith 200 PSI Compressor
Choose your 2nd Compressor (Optional)
Air Zenith 200 PSI Compressor 2
4 Fill Valves
SMC 3/8" Fill Valve
4 Dump Valves
SMC 3/8" Dump Valve
Switchbox
Air Tank
5 Gallon 4 Port Air Tank
2nd Air Tank (Optional)
5 Gallon 4 Port Air Tank
Front Airbags
Rear Airbags
Gauges For Bags (Includes 2 dual needles)
Gauge for Tank (Includes 1 single needle)
Air Line for Valves (50ft)
50ft of 1/2" DOT Reinforced Air Line
Air Line for Gauges (50ft)
50ft of 1/8" DOT Reinforced Air Line
Water Trap (Optional)
SMC Water Trap 3/8"
Pressure Switch
Viair Pressure Switch 110/145 PSI Viair Pressure Switch and Relay
however I did just put a switchbox, gauges and air bags as what came up because There is not one in particular that I would highly recomend.
I will be updating this when I find you some more things.
Also if you are looking for answers and even ask some more questions check out rangerpowersports.com.
Four link: http://suicidedoors.com/SuperLift,SuperPivot4-LinkKit.php
Bag bracket kit: http://suicidedoors.com/Pre1997FordRangerBagBracketKit.php
And here is the round notch : http://suicidedoors.com/Round8StepNotchKit.php
I would give them a call and see what they can do about throwing a kit together with the stuff you want. I know that bag bracket kit comes with a few things you do not need, like rear bag brackets, because you get them with the four link.
So you cave a dollars on that and they should be able swap in the round notch for the regular notch the kit comes with.
And talk with them about price if you do go through them, or even if you do not talk with the guys and they will definately work with you.
And one last thing I some things like tanks and compressors and what nots, I would check around other places, ebay, and what not, it will help save you some money as well.
Zipity
04-27-2008, 12:47 PM
ty for all the advise and help.. I am hoping to be able to purchase my kit soon.
bluovaldude
04-27-2008, 12:51 PM
Ok just updated with some more.
Zipity
04-27-2008, 03:00 PM
Naw i can check ebay and what not out.. i just needed a base line of items I would need. I was unsure on the size tank or compressors and the other odds and ends. but i have a few places i can check out on ebay and ubid and I have a few places here in town. I just wanted to have atleast a working list i can use. to get mee the right items.
Zipity
04-28-2008, 03:45 PM
If i planned to do the rear with circle pipe. what size piping should i use and is i possible to do the full rear in circle pipe. i am going to copy the frame then remove the outside from it. Still decideing a plan.. and going to sketch it out.
bluovaldude
04-28-2008, 09:06 PM
Well with circle tubing I would recomend nothing smaller than 3in diameter and at least 3/16 think.
I know when I rebuild my fram I will be using 2x3, 3/16 thick.
But that round tubing will probably get expensive, check around and do some price shoping first.
alittlelow
04-29-2008, 10:15 AM
Here is my 94 ford ranger. I modified the suicide doors brackets a little for the front. My front shock mounts use the anti sway bar mount. The height of my brackets are set up to lay a 20 with 235 rubber. On with the pics, hope it helps.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x82/alittlelow/CAA7EN6P.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x82/alittlelow/CA3U6LBB.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x82/alittlelow/mp1.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x82/alittlelow/mike4.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x82/alittlelow/mike2.jpg
alittlelow
04-29-2008, 10:17 AM
Here is the engine compartment cut and tubbed for 20's with shaved firewall, and a pic of the 8 inch step notch.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x82/alittlelow/GaugeMagazine_2008_CommonBonds4_009.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x82/alittlelow/GaugeMagazine_2008_CommonBonds4_008.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x82/alittlelow/GaugeMagazine_2008_CommonBonds4_006.jpg
Zipity
04-29-2008, 11:59 AM
ty for all the help.. I have a better idea on how to mount the brakets and where. Hopefully i can get my kit soon
alittlelow
04-29-2008, 04:22 PM
The notches for the tie rods are huge cause i measured for 20's, but i would prepare yours for something bigger than 18's cause this is the second time i did mine. Which is not the easiest thing to do.
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