Hydrogen/Oxygen Generator.

[Combat]

Have anyone tried using one of those kits(Hydrogen/Oxygen Generator) to improve gas mileage? It seems that it can be possible. Or is it a hoax?

[almostclueless]

We've already discussed this in another thread.

[Wicked_Sludge]

mythbusters tried it too. hoax. big time.

[Combat]

Tried looking for the thread but resulted no luck. I must have not been using correct key words.


We've already discussed this in another thread.

[krugford]

It's a scam. You can't come out ahead on the energy balance.

[BrianS]

Mythbusters actually got it wrong........and they did prove an ICE can run off of ONLY hydrogen. I'm a big fan of mythbusters but they only used water with no electrolyte at all. But what you have to understand is it would take a huge hho generator to run a small car...it's prolly not feasible for that reason...plus all these people on here claim it strains your alternator.....at only 30amps.....when this whole time I thought the sound system in my car was a hog at only 100 total amps with batt caps....ha!;missingteeth;

[MAKG]

If you are going to generate hydrogen at 30A, you are going to have a 1/2 HP car.

Energy conservation is a bitch. But you would do well to understand it before claiming perpetual motion without realizing it.

[reno]

It has never been proved nor disproved, both sides argue over it. I would like to see something work to improve the mileage, but will not bash something that is being tested. You never know, someone may find the grail and viola, we have something that works like a charm. To many claims of high mpg, some say only a few mpg's. I am waiting for one to actually shows it is working and efficient. I want to believe with all the different trial and errors going on that something will prevail. You will hear that Hydrogen produces high amounts of CO2, false, this will go on and on and on.

[reno]

If you are going to generate hydrogen at 30A, you are going to have a 1/2 HP car.

Energy conservation is a bitch. But you would do well to understand it before claiming perpetual motion without realizing it.

So at night time I only half a 1/2 hp (or less) car? Headlights,A/C,fuel pump,Computer, and a whole slew of other things pulling amps.?

[MAKG]

No, at nighttime, your electrical system is pulling 0.5 HP (well, a bit more -- you're heating up the alternator as well) off the engine.

If you are going to run off hydrogen you make yourself, you will get out NO MORE than what you put in. Which means 0.5 HP at best.

Dude, you DESPERATELY need a basic physics course. It will pay for itself with all the scams you won't fall for.

As for it "never being proven," that's equivalent to claiming GPS doesn't work. Yup, you use the same physics for that (as well as how the satellites got there in the first place) as you do to say this "HHO generation" thing is a load of crap.

[AllanD]

I don't need to taste the snake oil to tell you it tastes like rotting reptile

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[reno]

No, at nighttime, your electrical system is pulling 0.5 HP (well, a bit more -- you're heating up the alternator as well) off the engine.

If you are going to run off hydrogen you make yourself, you will get out NO MORE than what you put in. Which means 0.5 HP at best.

Dude, you DESPERATELY need a basic physics course. It will pay for itself with all the scams you won't fall for.

As for it "never being proven," that's equivalent to claiming GPS doesn't work. Yup, you use the same physics for that (as well as how the satellites got there in the first place) as you do to say this "HHO generation" thing is a load of crap.

Makg, why do you think I am on the boat? All I have ever done about HHO is ask questions and wanted to learn. If it was not a scam, then great I am on board, if it is a scam I have no loss as I have zero $ invested as I have not built or tried this. I am waiting for reports to come out. I just don't knock people and their beliefs, you are not going to change their minds, so let it go. Maybe just maybe someone will come across something and we have some viable source of energy. Penicillin was found in the weirdest place,mold. You just never know what may come out. There are too many arguments going on, I came here to learn, not argue or be bashed, especially by one of the boards respected members.

[BrianS]

http://www.bitdig.com/torrent/other/download-1164422/Underhood-Alternator-Electrolysis-MYTH-avi.html

watch this

[reno]

http://www.bitdig.com/torrent/other/download-1164422/Underhood-Alternator-Electrolysis-MYTH-avi.html

watch this

OK, tell us how to watch it......

[Jason]

I am not getting into this discussion again BUT, MAKG, perpetual motion means nothing is added. The actions continue with nothing expended. In this system it requires you to add water. Use the phrase right if you must use it. Scam or not, perpetual motion doesn't apply.

[MAKG]

Perpetual motion DOES apply because you remove more water than you added (in the exhaust). At a higher temperature, so you had to consume energy to do it. That makes it a really bad fuel....

Perpetual motion means no ENERGY is added. You didn't add any energy in the water.

[James Denton]

I'm not trying to be a pain in the asssssssssss or anything-----but still like to know how many here has built a hho to see what it will do.Yes I built 3 units and I hadn't posted what mine does .When it goes on and Get it all check out.I will let you know first hand what it does.Then I be the first to let you know it works or it don't-----No here say faxes---know BS

[DeMilled_83_4x4]

I built one.
I installed it on my truck and have been driving around for a few days now.
No issues with it, opperates in the amp. range I want and puts out gas.
Truck runs smoother and seems to pull better on the low end.

I will drive the truck with and without the generator running and see how I am doing on gas savings.

I am running an 83 4x4 sporting the 2.8L.
Stock gearing.
31X10.50 tires.

I went with a "Joe Cell" design, stupid name but that's what people call 'em.
My cell configuration is: 3.00" Cathode 17" tall
2.50" Neutral 12" tall
2.25" Neutral 12" tall
2.00" Anode 12" tall
All tubes are 304SS


I made one or two small mistakes in fabricating this cell since I had never welded SS before but I am very pleased with it. All in all I would say the only surprise I had in building this cell was how hot SS welds when useing a MIG welder, everything else was very straight forward.



James, you have a PM.

[James Denton]

Built 3 units the one on my van now---Is at 4 more miles to the gallon----Yes all I can here is it don't work but the ones that say that,hadn't even built one.But all I can say you belive it will --or you don't-----I KNOW IT WORKS AND I STAND BY IT.


Thank's for the PM