The craziest suspension ever!

dude772 · Aug 26, 2007

Found this while looking for different suspension designs.

http://www.bose.com/learning/project_sound/bose_suspension.jsp

Watch the end of the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyf4rfT7bHU&NR

Loanranger · Aug 26, 2007

Man that is pretty cool, the coolest part is when it does the nightrider jump over the curb! So when do you think they'll make a longtravel kit? lol

Ozwynn · Aug 26, 2007

lol that is crazy ..... MAKG would like this one.

dangeranger01 · Aug 26, 2007

That was awsome!!!!!!!!!

Wicked_Sludge · Aug 26, 2007

haha, i totally didnt see that coming :clapping:

you know that really opens up a lot of options for vehicle suspensions though. being able to actively adjust for loads and conditions means you could have an f-350 that rides like a crown vic both empty or while towing 12,000lbs.

BobR · Aug 26, 2007

think of the amperage that thing would use. it might need a 2000 amp alternator.

Bob

MAKG · Aug 26, 2007

BobR said:
think of the amperage that thing would use. it might need a 2000 amp alternator.

Not really. The optimal algorithm -- if done correctly -- would be the one that uses the smallest average current. It's mathematically equivalent to how much jarring the driver feels.

It sounds like a clever idea -- and these guys have rep for clever ideas -- but it's rather hard to evaluate when the algorithms are "proprietary." That's what patents are for (yes, you CAN patent an algorithm, and there have been several well known examples, such as RSA encryption).

Don't think of these like "hydraulics" like you might see in a Cheech & Chong movie. That's not how you would want to operate it.

While this approach sounds very interesting, the one I **REALLY** want to see is electromagnetic engine valves. If you could control those with a module, you could dynamically adjust valve timing, duration, lift, and so on adaptively for conditions, and make a "perfect" engine without a bunch of camshafts, chains, etc.

Ozwynn · Aug 26, 2007

BobR said:
think of the amperage that thing would use. it might need a 2000 amp alternator.

Bob

the article said it uses about 1/3 of the energy needed to run the A/C system.

JFA_Spyderman · Aug 26, 2007

Yo,
That is pretty sick. There has got to be some way to adapt that to 4x4ing.

I wish they would get really up close and show you how the suspension system works. Did anybody see a link for the english version?

almostclueless · Aug 26, 2007

MAKG said:
While this approach sounds very interesting, the one I **REALLY** want to see is electromagnetic engine valves. If you could control those with a module, you could dynamically adjust valve timing, duration, lift, and so on adaptively for conditions, and make a "perfect" engine without a bunch of camshafts, chains, etc.

Amen to that!!! It would open up a whole new avenue to tuning of the average car......and with presets, max economy day to day and almost a top fueler on the weekend.....with reduced valvetrain load on the engine to boot!!

philzilla · Aug 26, 2007

dude , thats awsome

Dave R · Aug 26, 2007

MAKG said:
While this approach sounds very interesting, the one I **REALLY** want to see is electromagnetic engine valves. If you could control those with a module, you could dynamically adjust valve timing, duration, lift, and so on adaptively for conditions, and make a "perfect" engine without a bunch of camshafts, chains, etc.

Already been done, in fact Ford has the technology and has test mules using it.

Wicked_Sludge · Aug 26, 2007

Dave R said:
Already been done, in fact Ford has the technology and has test mules using it.

i thought that sounded familiar. hasnt honda done some similer experiments?

arrabil · Aug 26, 2007

and these guys have rep for clever ideas

Name some please.

BobR · Aug 26, 2007

MAKG said:
Not really. The optimal algorithm -- if done correctly -- would be the one that uses the smallest average current. It's mathematically equivalent to how much jarring the driver feels.

It sounds like a clever idea -- and these guys have rep for clever ideas -- but it's rather hard to evaluate when the algorithms are "proprietary." That's what patents are for (yes, you CAN patent an algorithm, and there have been several well known examples, such as RSA encryption).

Don't think of these like "hydraulics" like you might see in a Cheech & Chong movie. That's not how you would want to operate it.

While this approach sounds very interesting, the one I **REALLY** want to see is electromagnetic engine valves. If you could control those with a module, you could dynamically adjust valve timing, duration, lift, and so on adaptively for conditions, and make a "perfect" engine without a bunch of camshafts, chains, etc.

I see 4, 2 direction linear motors possably that are computer controled with regererating capability.
on smooth flat road I could believe their power estimates but no way on the illmaintained streets in many US cities, or offroading.

Bob

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