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Dangeranger3
02-15-2008, 11:44 PM
Are the pitman arms the same, or at least interchangable, between 2wd and 4wd?

Sasquatch_Ryda
02-16-2008, 01:00 AM
I believe that the 2wd pitman arm is a bit flatter and has less drop than the 4x4 pitman arm

metalmacguyver
02-17-2008, 05:54 PM
I believe that the 2wd pitman arm is a bit flatter and has less drop than the 4x4 pitman arm

x2. it is. there is no difference in steering box shaft either.

Sprag-O
02-17-2008, 06:06 PM
Manual or Power steering on the 2wd?

Jspafford
02-17-2008, 06:11 PM
2WD is straight, 4WD has a drop.

Sprag-O
02-17-2008, 08:52 PM
Also, I belive Spline and shaft dia. between manual and power steering is different as well.

Dangeranger3
02-17-2008, 09:54 PM
power steering on the 2wd. So the concesus is that they will interchange? I am looking at getting a used skyjacker drop pitman so my steer doesn't look like /\

Sprag-O
02-17-2008, 09:59 PM
should work, remember though, the 4wd will have a little more drop then a 2wd pitman normally would, so if you have a 4" lift pitman arm on the 4wd, it will be like a 6" on the 2wd I'd believe, as far as correcting steering geometry goes., steering will be --- :)

Dangeranger3
02-17-2008, 10:00 PM
Thanks for the quick reply sprag

MAKG
02-19-2008, 12:37 PM
power steering on the 2wd. So the concesus is that they will interchange? I am looking at getting a used skyjacker drop pitman so my steer doesn't look like /\

Isn't it cheaper just to get your truck aligned?

A drop Pitman arm is for correcting the linkage geometry, not the alignment.

Sprag-O
02-19-2008, 03:47 PM
I'd guess he's got 2" pucks or something causing an alignment issue.

MAKG
02-19-2008, 03:56 PM
I'd guess he's got 2" pucks or something causing an alignment issue.

Then he's in real logical trouble, since the Pitman arm doesn't affect camber at all.

Sprag-O
02-19-2008, 05:18 PM
Ahh, ya, I though maybe he was talkign about his drag link being at a bad angle, didnt really think it through

Dangeranger3
02-19-2008, 06:19 PM
power steering on the 2wd. So the concesus is that they will interchange? I am looking at getting a used skyjacker drop pitman so my steer doesn't look like /\

its supposed to say steering but you get the idea. Though my camber is terrible :black_eye: The drop pitman is, of course, to correc the steering linkage.

I meh not be makanic, but i lerk two much :derisive:

Sprag-O
02-19-2008, 07:39 PM
What do you have for a lift on the truck?

Jspafford
02-19-2008, 07:51 PM
The pitman arm doesn't affect the camber like MAKG said, it would affect the toe.

Dangeranger3
02-19-2008, 08:31 PM
Right, I don't expect it to effect camber, I have f 150 coils and washers. I haven't tried to align it yet, as it doesn't get driven much.

MAKG
02-20-2008, 11:08 AM
If you haven't dropped the axle pivots like you should, there is no geometry to correct. You need an alignment. Note that you may not be able to correct that camber problem at all.

Dangeranger3
02-22-2008, 09:57 PM
Thats (one of) the reason(s) I haven't gotten it aligned. (The fact the it probably isn't alignable without drop brackets) I appreciate your input, but my steering is at a horrible angle, and if the pitman arm is used after a 4" lift, I think it will be necessary for my lift. But as always, feel free to enlighten me some more. Also by "there is no geometry to correct" do you mean that the steering angles will change when its aligned, thus making my current efforts useless?

MAKG
02-22-2008, 10:08 PM
In a nutshell, proper geometry is to have the end of the Pitman arm more or less right in front of the axle pivot bolt. You haven't changed this with your F150 coils. It's axle pivot drop brackets that screw that up.

Evan
02-22-2008, 10:50 PM
I was barely able to align mine with only F-150 coils, and no drop brackets. Good luck getting it aligned with 150 coils and washers.