d44 knuckles on d35

[daves302gt]

HI guys,
I saw the article in the Tech Library on upgrading the D35 TTB to D44 knuckle, hub, and brakes. I was wondering if it mattered what year 44 you took the stuff from. It looks like i can get a whole used f150 axle for anything between 100 and 300 bucks up here, and snag the parts off of that. Thats the cheapest option. especially cuz i don't want to go to a solid axle yet. I've got the TTB to a great articulation point, but i keep breaking hubs. so now i can upgrade to better hubs AND better brakes for about 200$ less than a SAS. :icon_thumby: Please let me know. the TTB is a 96 from a ranger, what year 44 should i use? Is there a difference in anything consequential?
Thanks

[4x4junkie]

Are you breaking the "Jeep" hubs?? (Warn pt#37780)?

http://www.therangerstation.com/Magazine/May04/offroad.htm

[arrabil]

Your 96 D35 TTB has holes for the ABS sensors, steering stops, dual piston calipers, and caliper brackets which the earlier models don't have. I can't say I know, but I'd imagine the same changes were built into later model D44 TTBs as well.

[daves302gt]

Actually, i wrote this post before finding out about the Jeep hubs. I just ordered two of the jeep style, should have them next week. I hope they work better, because that was my 3rd set of hubs this year. I guess my foot has gotten a bit heavier recently... Now with stronger hubs i'll have to upgrade the axles to not spit C-clips. i've already seen evidence that the caps are spinning a little.

--So now, just as the point of reference, if the jeep hubs are still breaking, i may go to the D44 hubs. I don't have ABS on my '85. I do have the dual piston calipers and steering stops tho. So we think I need a late model TTB 44 knuckle set up, right? What is the first year for this equipment? (w/ or w/o ABS). Did they get TTB D44s in the early 80s?

[arrabil]

If you don't have ABS, you don't need a later model TTB unless you want the steerng stops and the upgraded brakes.

Also, Warn will warranty those broken hubs. They might even send you Jeep hubs to replace them for free. They basically did for me.

[hitech_hick]

If you don't have ABS, you don't need a later model TTB unless you want the steerng stops and the upgraded brakes.

Also, Warn will warranty those broken hubs. They might even send you Jeep hubs to replace them for free. They basically did for me.

How long is the warranty for?


hick

[arrabil]

Lifetime apparently. I wouldn't tell them I ran anything bigger than 31s though.

[daves302gt]

What if you don't have a proof of purchase, like you bought the hubs used like I am? Currently, i'm dealing with the warranty dept at Milemarker, i don't know if they even have the upgraded version. (I don't recommend Milemarker)

[PARKINGLOT]

check this out...one of the links I've been storing for awhile, for one reason or another...

http://www.mappyjack.com/Dana44.htm

[4x4junkie]

If I was going to do D44 outers on a D35, that link posted right above would be the way I'd do it.

If you want to try using TTB 44 parts, then any year can work (avoid '87 though, junk). IIRC, you'll have to bore out the lower balljoint hole some though in order to get the knuckle (axle) lined up with the differential.

I don't think it'll be needed though, I've yet to see any credible reports of physically broken Jeep hubs yet (beyond a dial malfunction one user had).

Have you looked through the axle upgrades sticky in the Axles section? There are many things you can do to improve the durability on these things ;)

http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15

The u-joint mod is probably right up there with the hubs in terms of strength gain.

[BDAB]

off topic, but does anybody have the write up on using chevy 8 lug 44 stuff on a ttb 44?

[CopyKat]

check this out...one of the links I've been storing for awhile, for one reason or another...

http://www.mappyjack.com/Dana44.htm

I prefer this one......

:woot:

http://home.sprintmail.com/~rogermcgill/Ranger/theory/

[PARKINGLOT]

so...bolt an F-150 spindle to a TTB 35 knuckle, turn down the D44 rotor on the outside? and then use the TTB 35 caliper...I think? that article was kind of thrown together...

[CopyKat]

I think? that article was kind of thrown together...


That's too bad you think that way. I know it's been done by an Icelandic. I remember reading about it years ago. Right here on TRS

[daves302gt]

yeah, i'm doing the Jeep hubs very soon, which seem to be bullet proof, and i'll do the u-joint c-clip mod at when i'm in there to re-RTV the front diff. Recently i seem to be having problems catching the front diff on stuff going backwards, causing it to leak from the bottom of the cover/housing. Thanks for the INFO!

[CopyKat]

Recently i seem to be having problems catching the front diff on stuff going backwards, causing it to leak from the bottom of the cover/housing. Thanks for the INFO!

Easily solved.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/CBII/parts/d35skid2.jpg

[rickcdewitt]

thats pretty good work is it homemade?

[PARKINGLOT]

That's too bad you think that way. I know it's been done by an Icelandic. I remember reading about it years ago. Right here on TRS

what I mean is, it seem somewhat poorly worded...

"Find a buddy with a lathe or a brake machine to turn the rotor the smaller diameter.
You then assemble the hub using D35 brake pads (91 Explorer)
You will gain the hub and bearing spacing, but you loose the Brake upgrade.
Clearances do not seem to be a problem, but were the caliper will sit in the mount I do not know."

I understand..
"Find a buddy with a lathe or a brake machine to turn the rotor the smaller diameter." - duh. Machine down the diameter of the rotors...
"You then assemble the hub using D35 brake pads (91 Explorer)" again...simple...use 1G expo pads...
"You will gain the hub and bearing spacing, but you loose the Brake upgrade." you don't use the D44 knuckle, so you don't get bigger brakes...

but...
"Clearances do not seem to be a problem, but were the caliper will sit in the mount I do not know."

What exactly did he mean by that? is the rotor pushed farther out on spindle or something?

[CopyKat]

but...
"Clearances do not seem to be a problem, but were the caliper will sit in the mount I do not know."

What exactly did he mean by that? is the rotor pushed farther out on spindle or something?

The caliper is a floating design so if there is a variation of 1/4" or so where the caliper sits should be managable.

The only problem I could see is the size of the hat on the rotor may be very close to the caliper itself. A bit of fine grinding work and it should all fit snug.

[daves302gt]

NICE skidplate...i'll have to fasion one up for myself, or pick one of those up, Who makes that?

[Sasquatch_Ryda]

He makes that. Very well built, takes a pounding and doesn't even flinch. I've got one too.