What do you think would happen if...

[pentode]

This is going to sound crazy and im pretty sure its never been done...
What if someone built an engine, or modified an existing engine to where it would fire one whole bank of cylinders at once?

My go-to entertainment for almost all "what if" car questions is Garage 54 out of Russia. They continue to answer all the questions you never thought to ask and nobody in their right mind would ever try, and yes, they built this one too.

 

[bobbywalter]

ron white has a statement for this

 

[bobbywalter]

 

[pentode]

The thing about doing those insane experiments like filling the engine compartment with concrete or cutting a car battery in half or putting another suspension under the existing suspension Is that you learn surprising things. I can't recommend those garage 54 guys enough, they're a laugh, very educational and unreal craftsmen.

They're like car Mythbusters on Russian steroids.

 

[Snoranger]

But it does seem just about every I6 has a reputation for being basically bulletproof....seems there might be a reason for that.

One of the main reasons I6 engines are so bulletproof would be the number of crank bearings. Every cylinder has a crank bearing on each side of its connecting rod… where your typical V8 has 2 cylinders share a pair of crank bearings. The bearings in an V engine are literally taking twice as many “hits” compared to I engine.
This, combined with the higher torque at lower RPMs, are what really gives the I6 its longevity.

 

[bobbywalter]

One of the main reasons I6 engines are so bulletproof would be the number of crank bearings. Every cylinder has a crank bearing on each side of its connecting rod… where your typical V8 has 2 cylinders share a pair of crank bearings. The bearings in an V engine are literally taking twice as many “hits” compared to I engine.
This, combined with the higher torque at lower RPMs, are what really gives the I6 its longevity.

more importantly, in diametric oppositions of rustys monster. the natural balance the layout allows actually accomplishes his goal of one giant torque pulse.




silky smooth.... well....as smooth as a 3406 can be....purring like a walrus...

 

[MaicoDoug]

Great thread, thank you Rusty Ol Ranger!

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Great thread, thank you Rusty Ol Ranger!

Atleast im good for something

 

[bobbywalter]

and....uhhhh.... i have to send the ron white clip to myself sometimes...... dont tell anybody.

 

[racsan]

one other thing though is the mains on a V-block are wider (more surface area) than a inline. (at least the ones Ive seen. I-6’s are tough though, Ive had 2 amc 6’s a 232 in a concord (newer version of the hornet) and a 258 in a CJ7 jeep. Dad had a ‘74 2wd F250 with the 300, np235 3.73’s, It was a awesome truck! Id think if all 4/6/8 cyls fired at once it would vibrate like hell & destroy itself quickly. Jd 2cyls? Quite the tourque monsters, A ‘49 jd “A” is 321 cubic inches, less than 1,000 rpm top speed, 5.50 bore x 6.75 stroke. That tractor would just pull all day long & at night youd see a 2” flame out the top of the exhaust. A “G” was bigger yet, never drove one-wanted to. Id hate to feed one though, especially at todays fuel prices. Love that sound though. You can work them so low in rpm you hear the magneto snap over.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

one other thing though is the mains on a V-block are wider (more surface area) than a inline. (at least the ones Ive seen. I-6’s are tough though, Ive had 2 amc 6’s a 232 in a concord (newer version of the hornet) and a 258 in a CJ7 jeep. Dad had a ‘74 2wd F250 with the 300, np235 3.73’s, It was a awesome truck! Id think if all 4/6/8 cyls fired at once it would vibrate like hell & destroy itself quickly. Jd 2cyls? Quite the tourque monsters, A ‘49 jd “A” is 321 cubic inches, less than 1,000 rpm top speed, 5.50 bore x 6.75 stroke. That tractor would just pull all day long & at night youd see a 2” flame out the top of the exhaust. A “G” was bigger yet, never drove one-wanted to. Id hate to feed one though, especially at todays fuel prices. Love that sound though. You can work them so low in rpm you hear the magneto snap over.

I didnt realize the 2 cylinder deeres carried so much cubic inches. I really need to pay more attention to tractors that arent red.

 

[don4331]

One of the main reasons I6 engines are so bulletproof would be the number of crank bearings. Every cylinder has a crank bearing on each side of its connecting rod… where your typical V8 has 2 cylinders share a pair of crank bearings. The bearings in an V engine are literally taking twice as many “hits” compared to I engine.
This, combined with the higher torque at lower RPMs, are what really gives the I6 its longevity.

While the vast majority of 6 cylinder engines have 7 main bearings, the early 60's Ford small 6 (I-6 170 & 200) had 4. And there are Chevrolet I6s which only have 3 mains. And they're all bulletproof. Aside 1: While most V-8s have 5 main bearings, the Packard Patrician had 9, and there are a number with only 3. Number of bearings in an engineering exercise - is the cost of more bearings offset by allowing a less expensive (lighter) crankshaft.

4 stroke engine needs 2 revolutions to complete all for cycles * 360°/revolution = 720°; Power stroke goes from TDC to BDC (more/less) = 180°. 720°/180° = 4; so and every engine with 4 or more cylinder has more/less continuous power (assuming "normal" crankshaft). Aside 2: gaps in power stroke make it more challenging to turbocharge engines with 3 cylinders or fewer (you need plenums on both intake and exhaust to even out the pulses...otherwise it is very hard on turbo; remote turbo allows exhaust pipe to be plenums, as does intercooler on intake side). And a V-6 is effectively a pair of I-3s.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

one other thing though is the mains on a V-block are wider (more surface area) than a inline. (at least the ones Ive seen. I-6’s are tough though, Ive had 2 amc 6’s a 232 in a concord (newer version of the hornet) and a 258 in a CJ7 jeep. Dad had a ‘74 2wd F250 with the 300, np235 3.73’s, It was a awesome truck! Id think if all 4/6/8 cyls fired at once it would vibrate like hell & destroy itself quickly. Jd 2cyls? Quite the tourque monsters, A ‘49 jd “A” is 321 cubic inches, less than 1,000 rpm top speed, 5.50 bore x 6.75 stroke. That tractor would just pull all day long & at night youd see a 2” flame out the top of the exhaust. A “G” was bigger yet, never drove one-wanted to. Id hate to feed one though, especially at todays fuel prices. Love that sound though. You can work them so low in rpm you hear the magneto snap over.

G's were kinda poochy, in stock trim a gas A would walk beside one burning less fuel.

G'S were only available as an all fuel... with compression low enough to burn diesel with spark plugs.