trans fitment question

[broncobuckinaround]

86 b2 auto a4ld. with 2.9 motor.

i bought a manual trans out of a 86 ranger 2.3 manual trans. i dont know what model trans it is.

question... will it bolt up to my 2.9l

 

[cammeddrz]

No,

The bellhousing is very different.

If you want a manual trans, you'll need to go with one from a 2.8, 2.9, or 4.0. That's it

 

[broncobuckinaround]

thx man. ill be taking it back.

 

[broncobuckinaround]

Would be able to swap the bell housing to make it fit the 2.9

The junk yard says it will fit but I don't trust their computer

 

[adsm08]

The trans itself likely will work. Since it's an 86 there are two options for what it could be. Its either an FM145 or a TK4/5. A 44 would be an FM trans, a 2wd would be the TK.

Both of those have removable bells, but they don't interchange with the bell on your auto.

They are both a few inches shorter than your auto, which means new drive shafts.

 

[broncobuckinaround]

ok i know i dont have the cv axle drive line. i have the u joint one. and it does extend. but i dont know how much.

so if they sent me a bell housing from a manual trans the was bolted to a 2.9 it will bolt to the trans they gave from the 2.3

btw im doing the 5 speed swap. getting rid of my auto

 

[RonD]

+1 ^^^

For the most part all automatic transmissions have integrated bell housings, this means the bell housing, the part with the holes that must align with engine block, can not be swapped easily.
The rear of the bell housing is the front casing of the main pump inside the transmission, so to swap bell housings you need a complete tear down and rebuild.

Manual transmissions had separate bell housings for the most part up to mid-1980's.
So you could swap bell housings if transmissions were compatible.

Ford started using the M5OD-R1 5-speed manual in Rangers in 1988, these turned out to be very reliable transmissions, and were used until end of production in 2012.
But they have an integrated bell housing, so no swapping just the bell housing.
These also came in 2WD or 4WD using different tail shafts and housing, best to get what you need vs trying to find parts to change it.

M5OD-R1 was used on 2.9l(2WD) and 4.0l(2WD or 4WD) engine which share the same block so share the same transmission bolt pattern.
4.0l SOHC isn't the same block but does use the same bolt pattern as 2.9l and 4.0l OHV.

2.3l/2.5l Lima has unique bolt pattern
3.0l Vulcan has unique bolt pattern
2.3l Duratec has unique bolt pattern
2.9l/4.0l have unique bolt pattern
So no interchange between these 4 patterns

 

[broncobuckinaround]

ok thx ron. they are sending me a bell from a trans that was bolted to a 2.9.

and it it doesnt fit i told them ill be bring it back. the junk yard is a hour and 40 min drive from where i live. ill let then send it free of charge and see what happens