Torsion Bar Crank Effects

[shadow6]

Either a body lift or suspension lift will raise the axles (and frame) 50% of the amount of increased diameter of the larger tires you will be able to fit. A suspension lift will also raise the frame (and body) by the amount of the lift plus 50% of the amount of increased tire diameter.
So it depends what you need and what you're looking for.
A body lift costs about $250. If you have a Gen 1 or 2 a suspension lift costs about $600. If you have a Gen 3 a suspension lift costs about $1800, so a body lift starts looking more attractive.

I understand the money thing. Not all of us are able to dump $10k+ into suspension. Just trying to offer an apposed-body lift opinion. I think they are bad. But if its a street queen, I guess they're alright.

 

[nate09]

My point is you need to get the frame farther away from the ground. Not the axle. read my previous post.

the idea of lifting a vehicle is to gain clearance for larger tires. this is done by moving the axle further from the body. i dont care how large of a suspension lift you put on a vehicle, if the axle clearance is no larger than stock, then what was the point?

 

[shadow6]

the idea of lifting a vehicle is to gain clearance for larger tires. this is done by moving the axle further from the body. i dont care how large of a suspension lift you put on a vehicle, if the axle clearance is no larger than stock, then what was the point?

Ok your contradicting yourself here, You say you don't care how large of a suspension lift someone has, if the axle clearance is no larger than stock. if that were true you are not lifting the suspension at all. That would in fact be a BODY LIFT. a suspension lift is what raises the body AND frame away from the axles. I mean I could draw a picture and some graphs if it would help you comprehend this. Yes a body lift will allow for better tires and more ground clearance. A good suspension lift that allows more articulation will allow you to use those bigger tires and more ground clearance. To the Op, be ready for significant changes in, fuel mileage, torque and changes n ride quality when you switch to 35's. Larger tires are great, but with stock gearing you will lose fuel mileage and the need to use 4low will be almost always when off-road. unless you got a 4.0 my 3.0 with 32's and 4.10's needs 4low. but then again my clutch does slip like a mofo.

 

[Frank The Tank]

I have an 04 with 3in bl and tbar crank with 33's............ I can fit 35's with trimming only.
And when I wheel hard, my rear tires have been known to contact the fender.well..... screwing up one ridiculously expensive 3in fender flare which has since been fixed.

That was with an explorer axled with spring perches top mounted......

I would require at least another 2-4in suspension to make me feel safe to wheel a 35in tire hard, with real front end flexing.

Frank

BTW ground clearance has nothing to do with lift..... you only have as much clearance as your tires give you (no matter how you cram them under the truck) your body is going to be bottoming out, neither is your frame (in most cases) your diffs will be dragging and the only way to raise a diff is to get bigger tires.

 

[nate09]

perhaps a visual aid will help.

the idea of lifting (no matter what method) is to get bigger tires on your truck to increase axle clearance.

-suspension and body lifts no not increase axle clearance.

-suspension lifts increase frame and body clearance.

- body lifts increase body clearance.

 

[99_3.0]

What is so confusing about this idea? You don't ever change your axle to ground clearance unless you change tire size. The idea of suspension lifts is to make it so you CAN change tire size to gain axle to ground clearance, as well as suspension performance. Body lifts let you put on bigger, taller tires which means more axle to ground clearance.

 

[shadow6]

wow some of you must have proud parents. yes a body lift will allow bigger tires, we have established that. your not gaining any suspension performance. body lifts are like the special Olympics, even if you win its still retarded. Not to mention 90% of the time the crappy ass bolts rust to the pucks, so that when (not if, WHEN) one of the body lift bolts breaks its a bitch and a half to get the others out. I get It nate09 you don't like/agree with my opinion, but I simply don't give two shits if you can piss farther than me.

 

[Frank The Tank]

wow some of you must have proud parents. yes a body lift will allow bigger tires, we have established that. your not gaining any suspension performance. body lifts are like the special Olympics, even if you win its still retarded. Not to mention 90% of the time the crappy ass bolts rust to the pucks, so that when (not if, WHEN) one of the body lift bolts breaks its a bitch and a half to get the others out. I get It nate09 you don't like/agree with my opinion, but I simply don't give two shits if you can piss farther than me.

Body lifts belong in conjunction with suspension lifts......
a 1-2 in body lift works miracles with clearencing an oversized engine.

Theres no point in doing a body lift other than to do bigger tires..... then you need the suspension to work it, so you can't hate on BL's because they don't add flex.... they add room, "room" its pretty sweet stuff.

Frank

 

[mwood1985]

jack the damn thing up and drive to my house and lets go wheeling who cares about the science of it all...just my 2 cents