Stock, Bare bones, Carbureted, Help?

[Speedster]

Hello People,

This is a 1923 Model T Speedster I built.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsAJEM7--VI[/URL]

I'm Building another and want a more modern powertrain installed.

What would be the ideal Ford Ranger engine to cram into this body?

I'm thinking carbureted older model?

Frame width is 23" wide. OD
Not to concerned about height and I will modify the firewall to accept.

I know it's not a ranger...BUT!...It is a ranger motor question.

The Model T Guys have banned me for this custom idea.

I would appreciate you input and tolerance for this MUCH Needed information.

Thanks,
Russell.

 

[tomw]

The carbureted models develop a lot less torque and hp than the injected models. The EFI systems don't take a lot of excessive sensors if you stay with EEC-IV. Once you get to the later models, there are a lot more sensors that monitor how things are working.
There is a sticky at the top of the 4-cylinder page:

http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9

It has a treasure trove of technical information.

Were I doing it, I'd go with the system I know the best, the 1985 EEC-IV, and change the cam to roller followers. Make sure to get a more free flowing muffler than OEM. Other suggestions will likely have different points mentioned.
tom

 

[adsm08]

Well, size wise I would think the optimum Ranger engine may be the 2.3L. The Model T was designed with an in-line engine in mind, and that means a 2.0 or 2.3, if you want a Ranger engine. A 2.8 could probably be made to fit, with a little work. All the other Ranger engines were EFI, and are a lot more work to make carb. The big issue is finding an intake to convert them. They are out there, but the are super expensive.


Also, for those of us too lazy to click a link, here is his video:

 

[Speedster]

Thanks for the quick replies and the video link...

These cars are so small I'm not too concerned about power and with the small area
to work with, ....less is more in this case...

I'm an old-school builder who has a deep misunderstanding with the electronics placed on the engines of today.

I can remove and replace and rebuild easy enough, but wouldnt kmow what to keep with the motor for it to run properly when swapped.

Trying to avoid the added stress of what the motor actually needs from the donor vehicle.

2.0 or 2.3 sounds like a good fit..I'll look that up.

Any other suggestions are appreciated.

 

[adsm08]

Well most of the electronics on a modern engine, assuming it doesn't have variable cam timing, which Rangers never had, are all to support the EFI system. If you take a newer engine that was EFI, and put a carb on it, all that stuff can go, as long as it isn't holding fluids in. So the oil pressure sensor, the coolant temp sensors, those need to stay, or be replaced by pipe plugs, because you will have leaks otherwise. On a carb engine the other electronics won't do much.

You'd need to do something with ignition, I like the GM HEI conversions myself.


Just look for an 88 or older 2.3.

 

[Speedster]

Ok,

I dont want to beat you guys to death with questions about this due to the fact that I'm not familiar with the wiring.

With your existing responses I think I know the direction to follow and continue with.

So!

I'll end this with one final Question..

If I wanted to keep the EFI...
Would it be possible for one to describe to me the components to be removed with the motor
from the donor vehicle?
Or is the wiring harness to complex to try and verbalize such a task?

 

[adsm08]

For EFI you need the engine, all the sensors on it, the oxygen sensor in the exhaust, the harness, and the computer. You will also need a fuel pump capable of producing at least 35 to 45 PSI.