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Reference ground reads 5.5V


jcastilow

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City
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Vehicle Year
1994
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Hi,

I used an OBD1 scanner to pull codes from the truck in the hopes of fixing any problems with it. It has a couple small running issues.

Well, it spit out a heap of codes telling me basically every sensor was bad. They are: 237,519, 341, 118, 123, 113, 337. This is in a simple Key On Engine Off (KOEO) test. The problem is very similar to this thread (http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?p=31788) except my truck runs basically fine - just a few hiccups.

So, I don't believe every sensor is bad and start by backprobing the TPS. I find that with the positive probe on grey/white (wiper) and negative probe on grey/red (return) that I'm getting -0.1V at idle and -0.5V at WOT, but again the truck runs basically fine.

I pull the plug and check that I'm getting 5V on brown/white when grounded to the battery - yup checks out good. Then, I check that I'm getting 0V on grey/red, and I'm getting 5.5V at the reference ground, which is not what I expected at all. Further, it seems to explain the -0.1V and -0.5V at WOT - that's just the difference between the two reference values.

What could be causing this? Would another sensor being shorted cause this? Do you check if a sensor is shorted by doing a continuity test? Should the reference ground read 0V when grounded at the battery?

I asked for help here:http://www.ranger-forums.com/sohc-2-3l-2-5l-lima-engines-135/vref-issues-150118/#post2116006

But I just can't buy what he's saying. That the reference ground to PCM being 5.5V is no big deal. I think it matters because the TPS is SUPPOSED to read between 0 and 5Vs and if the top wire is 5Vs when grounded to the battery then the bottom wire had better be 0Vs when grounded to the battery.
 
If you suspect another sensor start by probing at the TPS connector and unplug the others one by one. If one of them makes it go away that is your culprit.
 
Thanks for the reply.

That's a good troubleshooting tip.

What do you think about the reference ground reading 5.5V - is that abnormal?

Should it read 0V when grounded to the battery if the other side is reading 5V?

Do you think another sensor being shorted could explain why that reads 5.5V, if it's abnormal?
 

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