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new rotors and brakes triggering ABS


specialfxn

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Vehicle Year
2004
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Automatic
Aloha,

I recently bought a 2004 Ranger XLT 4X2. I have had a few issues in the couple of months that I have had it. It only has 68,000 miles. Because of a pulsing in the brakes, I decided to try my first rotor, bearing and pad replacement. Everything went smooth until I drove to bed-in the pads. After getting up to 35 mph and applying steady pressure to the brakes, at 15 mph the ABS kicks in. After doing this 4 or 5 times, the ABS light comes on.
I choose Raybestos rotors, ThermoQuiet ceramic pads, and timken bearings. When I returned home, I noticed that the tone ring was different on the rotors ( at least on one of them. It turns out I had 2 different rotors on there). Could this effect the ABS sensor?
I also noticed the that when I re-applied the caliper, the pads were already biting somewhat and not free spinning. Also, when I went to recheck everything after the drive, the lug nuts were extremely hot.

What am I missing? How can I fix the ABS issues? Do I need to try different rotors with a different style tone ring?

Huge thank you to the forum in advanced for any help!
 
brakes

The wheels are going to get hot if your dragging the brakes to seat the new parts, now if one wheel is way hotter than the other you have a caliper thats sticking, and making that side hot and not release, if you drive it any distance with this condition it will seize up and lock that wheel, as the heat expands the parts and they lose the clearance thats needed, a dead give away if one caliper is sticking, as the brakes get hot the steering will pull to one side, if both are bad then they wont do this, but as they get hot, rotors will turn blue, truck will feel like there is something slowing it up, as far as the tone rings go, if they worked before they are more than likly not the problem, as there are different methods of manufactering but they all work the same for a given application, drive it around close to home with only using the brakes lightly and see if the wheel seems like its way to hot for the light use pull your wheels and check things out , you may also want to check to see that you have the correct free play in your wheel bearing, all disc brakes have some drag, its normal, a master cylinder that has its relief port blocked can also make brakes drag but here again if you didt touch it, its not likely a problem that your having
 
You do need to have the correct tone rings for the ABS to work properly. Wrong tone ring will give the computer bad info and make it think something is wrong.
 
Could it be the parts store sold someone the wrong parts?!?!?:shok: What is the world coming to??? It's like the foundations of my life have been shaken... Back to therapy...
 
How would I know what the correct tone ring is? When I pulled the rotors they were not the same and had different tone rings. One was more of a "cog" style and solid were the other was more a "cut out" style. The ones I put on were more of the cut out style.
If the sensor is bad, would it throw a code?
 
One more question, again thanks for all of the help. During the braking, the ABS kicks in at about 13-15 mph and slightly pulls to the right. Is this an indication that the front right sensor may be bad?
 
If it's pulling to the right, it's most likely the LEFT side that has the problem. It's seeing a lockup on that side and releasing the left caliper.
 
Swapped the raybestos rotors for napa ones--problem solved
 
They both looked identical with the same number of "cut outs" in the ring. I am guessing there was a minor defect that positioned the tone ring to far away from the ABS sensor. It may have been a dent or it wasnt seated correctly.
 

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