Having transmission/clutch problems

[chris16371]

I'm new here but this forum had helped me out so many times in the past and I should of joined a long time ago. Idk if this is in the right spot so I apologize if it's not.

I have a 1999 Ranger 3.0 5spd and about 2.5 weeks ago a noise started every time I pushed in the clutch, from inside the cab it sounded like a scrapping/crackling kind of noise. It was fine when the clutch wasn't in. About a week ago I was coming to a stop and shifting into first but it wouldn't go and I had force it into gear, after this it shifted fine and the noise was gone. The noise came back about 3 days later. Today im driving and I'm coming to a red light and I stop and go from second to first but it wouldn't shift so I tried second and it went in but it was acting like the clutch was half in and started jerking, luckily the light changed so I gave it some gas and started driving. Then I went to shift from second to third and it wouldn't shift into any gear so I pulled off to the side of the road. I sat there for about 5 minutes and try again and it went right into first and shifted fine with no noise with clutch engaged the hr drive home. When the noise started I was thinking throw out bearing but I'm not sure now. If it is what else should I change when I have tranny dropped? I can get a transmission local for $175 with 90 day warranty but I doubt it comes with the clutch parts. Thanks in advance!

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[RonD]

Welcome to TRS

Yes it is the throw out bearing making the noise and it also reads like the slave is starting to go as well.
Check clutch reservoir to see if it is getting low on fluid, slave could be leaking a bit.

Don't see a transmission problem in the description of symptoms, just clutch issues.
But you can shear off roll pins on the shift rails if you "force" shifter into gear, too many times.

Replace
Slave/throw out they are usually a combo unit
Pilot bearing
And clutch disc with self-adjusting pressure plate if disc is too thin

 

[Patrick]

You might consider the pilot bearing. I had one go bad. It started as a squeaky noise with the clutch pedal in, then progressed to being hard to put the tranny in gear with the engine running. It would grind a bit and make bad noises. Turned out the bearing had destroyed itself, and the little pieces gave just enough friction to turn the input shaft of the transmission.

The part only costs 10 bucks or something, but I would rule out the slave cylinder and throwout bearing before you pull the transmission. The pilot bearing goes inside the flywheel (rubber seal to the rear of the vehicle).

When it acts up. Try turning off the motor and starting it while in gear with the clutch pedal in. If the clutch is not disengaging, then it probably won't turn over very well, I would think. If it starts fine then it could be what I describe. Let us know what you find!

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[chris16371]

I think I may be confused on the last part Patrick. I always start truck in gear with clutch in and it starts fine, but that is what it should do right?

Don't I have to drop the tranny for the slave anyways?



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[MrGiggles]

If you're going to drop the trans, replace everything. Clutch disk, pressure plate, release and pilot bearings (should all be included in a clutch kit), and the slave.

The pilot bearing spins with the clutch in, trans in gear, and engine running and while shifting gears.

The release/throwout bearings spins whenever there is pressure on the clutch pedal.

Both can start to hang up and cause shifting problems, but the release bearing will start to make a lot of noise first.

 

[RonD]

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Don't I have to drop the tranny for the slave anyways?



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Ranger Clutch slave is inside the bellhousing on the input shaft so transmission needs to be separated from the engine to get at it, or pilot bearing

 

[Patrick]

Sorry, forgot to subscribe. Yeah, you're right. The everything is in the bell housing. But like MrGiggles said, best to replace everything while you are in there. Its not tthat expensive.

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[chris16371]

Yeah only $200 in parts. I was going to pay a garage to do it but $350-$400 in labor, ouch.... I'm going to do it myself.

Here is an update though. I drive it to work the days I can't ride my motorcycle, it's only a 5 mile drive. I notice on the cool mornings that it is a little tougher to shift until the truck warms up, I don't have to force it. After it is warmed up 1st and 2nd still feel the same but the other gears are fine. When I'm not in motion (like when sitting at stop sign) it will shift into every gear like it should. The noise when clutch is in also has not came back. Is this still a throwout bearing problem? Is throwout and release bearing the same thing?

Another question I had is for the past 8 months now when I put clutch in and stop my rpm will drop to 500 for a couple seconds and then go back to normal. It happens only once in awhile but was wondering what the cause could be.

Thank you everyone, I truly do appreciate it!!!

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