Bunch of assorted questions for 98+ EFI swap

[dasfinc]

I've poked through most of the swap articles and had a few questions:

My truck is a 98 2wd, 4 cyl, short cab, stepside bed, auto.

I'm going to pickup an 96+ Explorer for parts *I can see what is needed as far as wiring/speedo/return fuel/etc.

BUT, what I don't see is mention on the motor mounts for my 4 cylinder *will the 5.0 still just bolt in with V-8 mounts*?

I don't see mention on drive-shafts *Will mine still work?*

I don't see much info on rear ends *Is the ONLY 8.8 that is a 'direct' swap one out of a V-6 powered ranger for my dinky 4 popper, and if-so, again, will my drive-shaft still work?

I rarely see 2WD Exploders in my area *Midwest*, so I assume I need the 4R70W transmission out of a 3.8 powered mustang 1998 or newer, is this correct? and if-so, will this still work/mount on my cross member and with my driveshaft?

Thanks for the input guys!!!
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[Teddyzee]

On '98 and newer coil spring Ragers, a custom mount must be made.
Drive shaft will depend on where the motor sits.
Your rearend will be fine, sounds like it's the 7.5
If you want to swap it to an 8.8, any ranger one from '93 to present (2wd or 4wd) will be the same dimension. I wouldn't worry about the rearend with a stock automatic setup.

You are correct, I believe the 3.8 Mustang had the same belhousing bolt pattern as the Windsor 302/351.

 

[dasfinc]

On '98 and newer coil spring Ragers, a custom mount must be made.
Drive shaft will depend on where the motor sits.
Your rearend will be fine, sounds like it's the 7.5
If you want to swap it to an 8.8, any ranger one from '93 to present (2wd or 4wd) will be the same dimension. I wouldn't worry about the rearend with a stock automatic setup.

You are correct, I believe the 3.8 Mustang had the same belhousing bolt pattern as the Windsor 302/351.

What do you mean "Custom"

the past 2 98+ articles I read said use V-6 mounts? Or are those 2 builds still Torsion bar/beam ones?

and the 7.5 one wheel peel I fear will suck with torque.
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[dasfinc]

And which drive shaft should I be aiming for...? I'd love some input on this T.T *Crying face*
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[Mac]

For the later Rangers with the torsion suspension, yes you use the stock Explorer V-8 mounts. With a coil suspension you need to use the SOHC V-6 mounts on the frame and some plates from them to the motor. Brain B (Ford engineer) has the plans that they used on one of the SVT project Rangers.
Drivers side looks like this.

Other side is basically a flat plate. Drive shafts are the last thing to worry about, way too many variables between swaps.
Mid-west, where abouts?
Dave

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

2wd 98+ Rangers are coil sprung.
4wd 98+ Rangers have torsion bars.

The 4.2L F-150 4R70W has the same bolt pattern as the 302/351 as well. Might check if there there are some other differences between the two though.

You can put the Explorer axle in your Ranger with a little work, there is a write up on how to do it in the tech library. Any 93+ Ranger axle will bolt in, for a V-8 the 8.8 out of a 4.0 Ranger would be the best Ranger axle.

Probably going to need to have a driveshaft shop make you a driveshaft.

 

[dasfinc]

For the later Rangers with the torsion suspension, yes you use the stock Explorer V-8 mounts. With a coil suspension you need to use the SOHC V-6 mounts on the frame and some plates from them to the motor. Brain B (Ford engineer) has the plans that they used on one of the SVT project Rangers.
Drivers side looks like this.

Other side is basically a flat plate. Drive shafts are the last thing to worry about, way too many variables between swaps.
Mid-west, where abouts?
Dave

close western suburbs, Warrenville specifically. *Naperville, wheaton, aurora, that area*

any way to get specifics on those plates, or order a set from him etc?

I'm aiming for a more 'street/sleeper' truck, and figured with a regular cab/stepside bed, 2wd, 'stripper' truck *Manual windows, locks, etc* that it'd move out fairly well being as light as it is. Lower it, with some 17" gun-metal bullets, and call it a day. *My truck is the copper/metallic orange color*
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[dasfinc]

2wd 98+ Rangers are coil sprung.
4wd 98+ Rangers have torsion bars.

The 4.2L F-150 4R70W has the same bolt pattern as the 302/351 as well. Might check if there there are some other differences between the two though.

You can put the Explorer axle in your Ranger with a little work, there is a write up on how to do it in the tech library. Any 93+ Ranger axle will bolt in, for a V-8 the 8.8 out of a 4.0 Ranger would be the best Ranger axle.

Probably going to need to have a driveshaft shop make you a driveshaft.

Amazingly, I could not find a single article that definitively said that *2wd coil, 4WD torsion* because all articles are for 4X4 rangers


Explorers are also coil sprung correct? so I'd imagine I should probably use explorer struts/springs?

*I will be picking up a V-8 Explorer parts car over the winter, I'm sure some are bound to get wrecked in the snow here like they do every year.*
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[85_Ranger4x4]

A '96+ 4x4 Explorer would have torsion bars.

Not sure what a '96+ 4x2 Explorer would have? They are pretty uncommon, and wouldn't have a V-8 anyway (only AWD)

I am also waiting for a 5.0 to get its everlasting this winter...

 

[Mac]

All the later Explorers had the torsion bar suspenson. Even sone of the 4x2 Rangers had the torsion bar suspension, some of the Sports, Edges and the Trailhead. Your existing springs might well work without changing, there are about nine different front springs with different ratings used in the 2000 Ranger. Some have had only a 1/2" drop if that with the swap. 85_ Ranger is right in that for your street use in the light truck, just an upgrade to a 4.0L Ranger 8.8 would work good, bolt right in.
Warrenville hun? Bet you've been to the Blackwell Forest Preserve then. Gary's Mill road is named after relatives, grandpa born there as was mom, old house is still there. Mack road is named for my grandmas side of the family, was in the family since 1840.
I can get you those plans, Brian is really hard to get ahold of now adays.
I'll PM you.
Dave

 

[dasfinc]

All the later Explorers had the torsion bar suspenson. Even sone of the 4x2 Rangers had the torsion bar suspension, some of the Sports, Edges and the Trailhead. Your existing springs might well work without changing, there are about nine different front springs with different ratings used in the 2000 Ranger. Some have had only a 1/2" drop if that with the swap. 85_ Ranger is right in that for your street use in the light truck, just an upgrade to a 4.0L Ranger 8.8 would work good, bolt right in.
Warrenville hun? Bet you've been to the Blackwell Forest Preserve then. Gary's Mill road is named after relatives, grandpa born there as was mom, old house is still there. Mack road is named for my grandmas side of the family, was in the family since 1840.
I can get you those plans, Brian is really hard to get ahold of now adays.
I'll PM you.
Dave

I've done many many things in those woods ;-)

That would be awesome mang! Thank you!!!
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[mike732]

Mac, I would love to have some of those mount plans too, can you get me a copy?