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2004 FX4 Rust free Portland, OR truck, CLEAN


They don't get snow in Oregon? :icon_confused:
 
Isn't salt air as bad?
 
It can be worse since rust can eat from the inside out. It looks like Portland is 50 miles from the coast. I'm not sure if that is far enough away to make a difference or not.
 
I'm 40 miles from the coast and that's still in tidal range for the rivers and streams so the water is brackish. Salt is still in the air here. When the air gets dry it falls out of the air I guess, I'm not a scientist... but it leaves a white film if you let stuff sit out. And its definitely salt because I lick it!

But Portland is on the rust belt I thought?
 
you think a rust free '04 is something? My '90 is barely rusty...

And the question whether there is snow in Oregon... it's sparse, happens but for the most part doesn't stay more than a couple days and when it does everything shuts down since people don't experience it... and when it's icy they use sand instead of salt except for a couple select areas that just got passed to be salted within the last couple years. They do use chemical deicer but it doesn't seem to do much to vehicles.

There's a small mountain range just inland of the coast over here, that keeps most of the salt at the coastal cities which there aren't that many of. Portland, Salem, Eugene, Medford Etc are all about an hour inland (I think that's a NW thing... distance in hours?) so no salt in the air.
 
Over here salt isn't allowed on the roads so Oregon isn't in the rust belt... like I said above, only a couple specific areas are allowed. The greenies are worried about runoff into the streams and rivers... For what it's worth I think Washington is the same. I think the rust belt starts around Idaho or Montana...
 
Over here salt isn't allowed on the roads so Oregon isn't in the rust belt... like I said above, only a couple specific areas are allowed. The greenies are worried about runoff into the streams and rivers... For what it's worth I think Washington is the same. I think the rust belt starts around Idaho or Montana...
Honestly, I am in shock the hippies haven't gone after salt being an environmental issue yet. Someone should tip them off to that on the east coast.

Oh, and the one chemical de-icer they use that does not affect body work is usually a combination of methanol from distilling booze, along with some other random brewery/distillery leftovers.

Otherwise, its the one they now run in PA/OH/WV that will destroy a new vehicle in two seasons.
 
My township recently starting using this crap they spray down a day or two before it snows. Aparently it's a type of fruit juice mixed with salt. The fruit juice makes the crap super sticky so it stays on the road better before the storm. But it also makes it stick to your car and it does not wash off. Then in true super villain fashion the second a snowflake actually hits the ground they start the salting on top of the sticky goop.

The only thing I notice this does is cause the first 30 minutes of snow to melt, then freeze so there is a lovely patch of ice beneath the fresh snow.

JUST LEARN TO #&$&%(@*# DRIVE IN THE SNOW AND STOP RUINING CARS!
 
There for a while, PA was using some sort of beet juice road pre-treatment. It was rusting vehicles so bad they stopped using it after a year or two.
 
Honestly, I am in shock the hippies haven't gone after salt being an environmental issue yet. Someone should tip them off to that on the east coast.
Don’t get me started.
Every year we have to go through storm water training. It’s all about managing storm water run-off and how it effects the environment. Including salt, leaving tires outside, oil/fuel spills, etc.
We’re supposed to track salt usage per road mile, every once in a while I have to pull totals to “keep the greenies happy”. Road Dept is supposed to go around after a storm with the street sweepers after the salt dries up and sweep up what’s left.
 
There for a while, PA was using some sort of beet juice road pre-treatment. It was rusting vehicles so bad they stopped using it after a year or two.

Try again. Beet juice is non-corrosive. The brine solution the state is still using (I passed a truck spraying it two weeks ago) eats everything. It even damages tires.
 

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