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1985 2.3l turbo diesel stock boost??


waynewiggins

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hey there, new to the forum. I have the above mentioned truck and was wondering wut the stock boost is and wut the max boost the stock engine can handle...mainly the head gasket. I put a boost gauge on it and it read about 8psi. Now mind u i have free flow 2" exhaust and 3" intake with cone filter. I read on here that the turbo makes 13psi normally?? is that right? maybe my wastegate was adjusted way lower?? it has an adjustable wastegate, which i turned up to about 12 psi. Theres no intercooler, and I dont know much about diesels, but my nissan SR20DET 2 litre turbo motor, which is intercooled, can run anything above 6psi without one apparently. any info on these diesels and how to get more out of them with simple tuning would be great like maybe adjusting the fuel screw?????? whereever that is. haha thanx.
 
You read correctly, it makes 13psi of boost. The 4D55 Turbo Diesel uses a Mitsubishi TD04-09 oil cooled and wastegated turbo that spins at an amazing 120,000 rpm. The TD04 is a great little turbo. The reason the 4D55 runs 13 psi and the SR20DET can on run 6 psi is because the 4D55 is a diesel. Diesel engines can run much higher boost than there gasoline counter parts. It's not uncommon for a modified Cummins diesel to make 80+ psi of boost.

So what's the max psi the stock motor can handle? I would say 13 psi of boost. The week spot is not the headgasket. The headgasket is held down with 18 headbolts. The limiting factor is heat. Too much heat an parts start to melt. You can reduce the heat by going with a newer style 4d56 head, adding an intercool and some water meth injection. With those modifications you should be able to run 20-25 psi of boost.
 
so the stock motor w a 3" intake and high flow air filter and straight pipe exhaust and no intercooler can handle 13psi without problems? I have an extra garrett t-25 off my sr20det and was wondering if it would be a better turbo, its a bit bigger so im guessing it will spool up later?? Id also like to put an intercooler on it, anyone messed around with an intercooler on these motors?
 
Thats not exactly what he said.
He said it could handle 13psi max.
I would assume that to mean 13 psi all the time would lead to catastrophic failure in repeated use due to rapid wear from abused parts. I would also take that to mean anything more than 13psi of boost would surely lead to catastrophic failure and parts melting.
 
I'm a diesel guy. I would think that engine could run 13 PSI all day every day without any issues coming from boost pressure itself. The failures would come just from running it at that power level all the time. However i would think it would be fine, diesels are made to be run hard. At least the bigger ones i play with.

My 7.3 stock would run about 15-17 psi at WOT. Tuned it and it gets to about 27-28. A 7.3 with stock head bolts can handle about 40 psi without issue. A 7.3 has i think 16 head bolts per head. Maybe 18, that slips my mind right now for some reason. I would think that 20-25 psi would be fine on the 2.3. However i don't know a lot about the 2.3 so don't take my word for it.

The melting down comes from extra fuel. You can run adjust the wastegate to run all the boost you want and it won't cause higher EGT's (exhaust gas temp). All you'll do by that is cause higher drive pressures and reduce your fuel mileage and power from it. And wear out your turbo faster.
 
im with jake on this: it can run 16psi all day.

however you have to keep it cool, so a lower temp thermostat might be in order depending on your driving.

I have an 82 volvo 245GL diesel wagon, its got a 2.4 inline 6 with 260k, it was originally N/A but I bolted a HX35 on it for kicks, unfortunately it blew the headgasket from being overheated. However it ran 40psi for a week and I was in no way easy on it.

I would recommend ARP head studs and a cometic metal head gasket if you can find one, of course if you cant a stock one will do just fine; be sure to torque the head studs to the ARP suggested limit.

oh yeah; turn up the max fueling and that should increase your boost if your wastegate is maxed out or entirely eliminated lol
 
The 4D55 was set from the factory to make 13 PSI of boost, that's what made it soooo much better than all it's competitors turbo diesels. Also the 4D55 was designed to be a turbo charged engine. Other turbo diesel engines of the 80's were naturally aspirated engines that were converted and fitted with a turbocharger.

Perfect example is the Isuzu C223 diesel engine found in the early Isuzu P'up's. In it's naturally aspirated form, the C223 was a very reliable motor but it struggled to make sufficient power by producing only 58hp and 93ft lbs of torque. In 1985 Isuzu change the manifolds and added the Garrett TB020 turbocharger to there legendary C223 engine. The new turbocharged engine was designated the C223T and made 74hp and 125ft lbs of torque. While the new C223T looked good on paper, it was a ticking time bomb. That additional hp and torque resulted in catastrophic engine failures even when the motor was in stock form. The most common part failure was the connecting rods on the Isuzu C223T. While Isuzu eventually corrected the problem with their 3 generation connecting rods, the rods were never available to the public and they were only used very small number of the C223T engines as part of a very small recall. I would say less the 1% of the C223T ever received the upgraded rods.

The 4D55 is capable of handling additional boost, but I would not make any modifications without adding a pyrometer first. That's just diesel modification 101. The 4D55 can safely handle 18-20 psi of boost but measures need to be taken to keep the EGT's in the safe zone like adding an intercooler. I really wouldn't worry about adding ARP head studs but I guess it never hurts. While the 4D55 was discontinued here in the US in 1987, it is still being produced in it same basic mechanical injection form and make 104 hp and 177 ft lbs of torque. It's make all this additional hp and torque while retaining the same basic block, head, pistons, connecting rods, cam etc. The only real changes were adding a watercooled turbo and intercooler.
 
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4D55 Performance,

Have you installed an intercooler into a ranger? If so do you have any pics of the install or the finished product?
 
It does not, unless 2x55mph counts lol
 
Ditto on the intercooler question, but mine has A/C......
 
There should be plenty of room to install an intercooler between the grill and the radiator. Make sure all the plumbing is nice and free of leaks.

Thanks, any suggestions on intercooler size or brand to go with?
 

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