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Old 02-09-2019, 05:10 AM   #41
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I'm only an hour from there just outside of Akron. Ill see what I can do to help Jim!! I think I have a clean 98 green tail gate that may still be in decent shape. Also I do have a 200 amp tig and a arc machine as well. I'm trying to find a decent smaller mig here soon. I do have a whole 98 single cab to rob parts from. (Its wrecked though in the front).

Post up a date when you'll be coming up and I'll do what I can to be there.
about 1.5 miles from 250 on north on 151. my truck is in the yard so you cant miss it....same one i was in last time i met you..

plan for this week is to put front axle parts/lockouts in and hot test/ load test the power-train before tearing into it. i was wanting to build a little work bench and stuff before tearing into it...garage is plain jane so any tools are welcome.
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:46 AM   #42
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Really starting to wish I hadn't sold my chop saw and tubing bender. I need to build a new rear bumper, and reposition the spare tire.
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theres a welder and chop saw and pipe bender here. its pipe though. so sch 40 hrew ect are materials needed...



tubing bender not too far away though. pretty sure pottsy still has one too.



mighty ford.....i work nights....12-15 hrs depending how far away and 7 days. not sure if you have my number. i am on a few phones since i last talked to a..same number though.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:16 PM   #44
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theres a welder and chop saw and pipe bender here. its pipe though. so sch 40 hrew ect are materials needed...



tubing bender not too far away though. pretty sure pottsy still has one too.



mighty ford.....i work nights....12-15 hrs depending how far away and 7 days. not sure if you have my number. i am on a few phones since i last talked to a..same number though.
I work 2nd shift currently 6 days a week. I just bought a 02 ext cab to build. Its not legal yet. But I'm working on all that. I think I need to toss a clutch in it. But once its good enough to make the trip down. I can load up some welders. I'll see what I can do about bringing some DOM with as well.

One question though...will we have heat??

Also Jim check your PM box sent ya one.

Oh and I maybe able to bring some kind of a work bench as well. I'll have to score a trailer from my brother.
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Old 02-12-2019, 03:37 AM   #45
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The more I think about the truck, the more I start losing sleep trying to come up with a plan. One of the things weighing on my mind is the engine. I replaced the original motor back in 2014 with one from a 1996 Ford Explorer. I have no idea how many miles are on the engine, but I know Bobby said it has a leak at the cylinder head. I haven't been reunited with it it. I plan to go out and tear in to it this spring.

Other than being stock, the motor has a Jet Performance Module and Borla exhaust.

I'm throwing around some engine ideas, and I know there are expenses that aren't listed, but I'm trying to get some idea of options and cost.:

Rebuild / Overhaul Option #1:

Engine Gasket Kit: Sealed Power Engine Kit Gasket Set 2601699 - $114
Rocker Arms: Melling Rocker Arms MR-927 - $99.00 ($8.25 each)
Timing Set: Sealed Power KT4028S timing set - $67.00
Stock Replacement Pushrods: Sealed Power RP3332 - $57.00 ($4.75 each) (5.48")
Oil pump: Melling: M128 Oil Pump $70.00
Oil Pump Pickup Tube: Melling 345S Oil Pump Pickup Tube $46.00

Total = $453.00 (assuming all of the rocker arms are replaced)

Rebuild / Overhaul Option #2:

Replacement Cylinder Heads - $500-$600 (pair)
Engine Gasket Kit: Sealed Power Engine Kit Gasket Set 2601699 - $114
Timing Set: Sealed Power KT4028S timing set - $67.00
Stock Replacement Pushrods: Sealed Power RP3332 - $57.00 ($4.75 each) (5.48")
Oil pump: Melling: M128 Oil Pump $70.00
Oil Pump Pickup Tube: Melling 345S Oil Pump Pickup Tube $46.00

Total = $854.00 (Replacement heads)


Rebuild Upgrade #1:

Comp Cams 49-410-8 camshaft - $295.00
Smith Bros NH54A-DD 5.550" Pushrods - $144.00 ($11.95 each)
Rocker Arms: Melling Rocker Arms MR-927 - $99.00 ($8.25 each)
Engine Gasket Kit: Sealed Power Engine Kit Gasket Set 2601699 - $114
Timing Set: Sealed Power KT4028S timing set - $67.00
Oil pump: Melling: M128 Oil Pump $70.00
Oil Pump Pickup Tube: Melling 345S Oil Pump Pickup Tube $46.00

Total = $835.00 (Rebuilt factory heads & camshaft upgrade)

Rebuild Upgrade #2:

Replacement Cylinder Heads - $500-$600 (pair)
Comp Cams 49-422-8 (or 410) camshaft - $295.00
Comp Cams 988-12 Dual Valve Spring - $67.00 (set of 12)
Comp Cams CCA-775-16 Spring Retainers - $55.00 (set)
Smith Bros NH54A-DD 5.550" Pushrods - $144.00 ($11.95 each)
Engine Gasket Kit: Sealed Power Engine Kit Gasket Set 2601699 - $114.00
Oil pump: Melling: M128 Oil Pump $70.00
Oil Pump Pickup Tube: Melling 345S Oil Pump Pickup Tube $46.00
Timing Set: Sealed Power KT4028S timing set - $67.00

Total = $1,357 - $1,457 (Replacement heads with upgraded camshaft)

Explorer 5.0L Swap:

Engine & Trans - $500-$600
BW4406 Transfer Case - $200
Cylinder Head Gasket Kit - $60.00
Oil Pump - $31.00
Timing Chain Set - $35.00
Timing Cover Gasket Set - $14.00
Crank Seals - $14.00
Oil Pan Gasket - $16.00

Total = $870-$970

Here's a really good deal on an engine donor:

https://tuscarawas.craigslist.org/ct...803625136.html

This assumes that the engine is in good mechanical condition and just needs freshened up with gaskets, seals, oil pump, and timing set. This doesn't include motor mounts and all the other things that might be needed?

Will also need some driveshaft mods.

I know some of you may think you should just replace everything with a V8. I've been very please with the performance of the 4.0L. I've had a 302 Ranger 4x4, and they're great for throwing mud, so I know the benefits of a V8. I want a reliable truck that I can travel all across the country in.

Anyone have any advise as to why I shouldn't just overhaul the 4.0L in it now??

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Old 02-12-2019, 09:33 AM   #46
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Jim I will say this since I have done three different swaps using Explorer motors as donors. In my experience I donít care what the mileage on an Explorer motor is I consider at a bare minimum the timing chain set up needs to be replaced because they are not a double roller like the early high output motors because of the shallow timing chain cover. There is no clearance and they seem to stretch badly. The other issue is the valve spring components are garbage from the factory and are junk before they are out of warranty. At a bare minimum the heads would need a good valve spring upgrade with matching components. So with considering a V-8 swap I would consider all of those as essential upgrades along with the associated parts to make that happen.
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I personally donít think you will have an issue whether you go V-6 or V-8 the part I question is the transmission that will have to be used with either of those engines. I am extremely disappointed with every A4LD and 5R55 that Iíve ever owned in a 4wd truck. I have spent thousands of dollars on the automatic transmission in my previous 99 ranger and it was a complete disaster and a giant waste of money. That was my primary reason for using the drivetrain that I did in my Bronco2 and built a basically bulletproof C4. In your application I think a well-built explorer trans would fit the bill but there is no way I would put a penny in or trust a A4 or 5R.
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:29 AM   #48
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Jim I will say this since I have done three different swaps using Explorer motors as donors. In my experience I donít care what the mileage on an Explorer motor is I consider at a bare minimum the timing chain set up needs to be replaced because they are not a double roller like the early high output motors because of the shallow timing chain cover. There is no clearance and they seem to stretch badly.
It might be totally different but I could ALMOST get the timing chain in my '87 CV engine to jump off the sprockets by hand, it was really baggy.

I have a double roller with an Explorer timing cover. :dntknow:

One thing I would be tempted to do (so tempted I did it myself) is a new water pump along with belt(s) and tensioners/idlers. It might be filed under boring misc with the engine mounts but I thought I would throw it out since you have oil pumps listed.
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I've replaced the 4R55E in this truck, and when we got it back, the trans was bad and it came with a questionable replacement. I think Bobby was going to test drive it and see if it needed rebuilt. Not sure if there is anything we could do to beef it up.

A benefit of the 5.0 would probably be the 4R70W, and I'd likely put a BW4406 behind it.

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Are you dead set on using an Auto? The M5OD is a decent transmission that is easy and cheap to rebuild.

And with the right gearing, the 4.0 is perfectly suitable for a Ranger.
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