Who knows about DVR's?

[Blmpkn]

I'm a massive fan of physical media, and it's incredibly aggravating how some programs/movies literally can not be had physically. You're only able to watch whatever it is as long as whatever streaming service has licence to show it.. and not one second longer.


Are DVR's able to upload their contents to a computer.. so it can be burned to DVD?

If that's not possible.. what about like.. computer programs that'll record whatever your watching on the computer from the background?

I miss ye Olde days..

 

[pentode]

There's a few ways to do it. There are plugins that will download streaming media from YouTube and other places. There screen capture programs that will record whatever's on the screen. You could also use a video card with the appropriate video output and/or an external recorder with the appropriate input to save it to some external media, say dvd-r or VHS

Edit: for the record, HDMI has some built in copy-protection schemes- HDCP springs to mind. If it were me and I really wanted a physical copy of something, I'd grab it in whichever way and then probably convert it to the most convenient format and burn it to a DVD. Or go full analog.

 

[RobbieD]

Or go full analog.

Is that the modern version of "going postal"?

I just can't keep up anymore . . .

 

[Blmpkn]

I'm next to illiterate when it comes to computer jargon.. it's partly why I've always been a console-gamer. Well... That and I'd go way overboard building a PC.. it would definitely end up water-cooled for no good reason other than its neat.. and it would be filled with RGB lights and I'd go broke in a big hurry haha

But I think I understand the HDMI thing? What your saying is that what I'm trying to do would be easier without recording from TV to DVR right? Best to grab it however possible with a PC?

Any way to do it with linux? My steamdeck runs off linux.. I've never been to the desktop side of the thing.. just the gaming portion.. but the thing does function as a normal desktop

 

[pentode]

Is that the modern version of "going postal"?

I just can't keep up anymore . . .

Actually going analog is technically the old-fashioned version of going postal.

 

[pentode]

I'm next to illiterate when it comes to computer jargon.. it's partly why I've always been a console-gamer. Well... That and I'd go way overboard building a PC.. it would definitely end up water-cooled for no good reason other than its neat.. and it would be filled with RGB lights and I'd go broke in a big hurry haha

But I think I understand the HDMI thing? What your saying is that what I'm trying to do would be easier without recording from TV to DVR right? Best to grab it however possible with a PC?

Any way to do it with linux? My steamdeck runs off linux.. I've never been to the desktop side of the thing.. just the gaming portion.. but the thing does function as a normal desktop

Well... let's take Netflix for example... that's going to be on the harder end of the things to archive because they don't want you making copies. And most modern hardware won't let you make copies. So, if you introduce a computer in the middle, there are some ways to grab video/audio. Sorry if I went haywire with options before.

And for the (legal) record, I can't publicly advocate for piracy but I definitely believe in USA Fair Use as defined by law, and that just about always covers making copies/recordings of things you paid for for personal use, despite what DMCA/MPAA/RIAA/Disney might want to tell you.

I'm suggesting that if you can get it on a computer screen, you can record it in a format that you can burn to a disc or record to some other format (not that there are many beyond discs- VHS was only a half joke, I still dig VHS)

 

[RobbieD]

Actually going analog is technically the old-fashioned version of going postal.

Well, I used to get steamed before it became fashionable to go postal.

Things just haven't been the same since they invented electrification, and now with all of this digikal stuff, why the world's gone to hell in a hand basket.

Think I'll go yell at some clouds . . .

 

[Blmpkn]

Well... let's take Netflix for example... that's going to be on the harder end of the things to archive because they don't want you making copies. And most modern hardware won't let you make copies. So, if you introduce a computer in the middle, there are some ways to grab video/audio. Sorry if I went haywire with options before.

And for the (legal) record, I can't publicly advocate for piracy but I definitely believe in USA Fair Use as defined by law, and that just about always covers making copies/recordings of things you paid for for personal use, despite what DMCA/MPAA/RIAA/Disney might want to tell you.

I'm suggesting that if you can get it on a computer screen, you can record it in a format that you can burn to a disc or record to some other format (not that there are many beyond discs- VHS was only a half joke, I still dig VHS)

The more you go haywire, the more potential there is for me to learn.. so youre all good lol.

Right on though.. Fair use is what it's all about here. Until VCR's get banned.. anyone can copy whatever they want lol.. I just want a higher quality copy

 

[pentode]

The more you go haywire, the more potential there is for me to learn.. so youre all good lol.

Right on though.. Fair use is what it's all about here. Until VCR's get banned.. anyone can copy whatever they want lol.. I just want a higher quality copy

I won't ask what you're watching, but what are you watching it _on_? Like rabbit ears, tv box of some kind, computer?

 

[Blmpkn]

I won't ask what you're watching, but what are you watching it _on_? Like rabbit ears, tv box of some kind, computer?

Haha topgear&grand tour honestly

While I havnt looked in awhile.. the last time I did.. I wasn't able to find anything prior to season 12 of topgear that would play in an American DVD player and nothing from the grand tour. I already have 12-22 on DVD.. and it was killing me not being able to get anything earlier.. so the thought of 'how do i make my own?' started rolling around. Its been yeeeeears... tired of hearing it roll back and forth by this point

I watch all my crap on a roku TV, but I'm willing to do whatever it takes lol. I'll buy myself a PC just good enough to do it If necessary

 

[pentode]

Our worlds collide

I have a special personal set of rules for fair use, which is "I'd make my own copy, but if someone else has already done that for me, might as well grab that and save the environment."

Funny enough, I just posted an imdb link to that special in that other thread... and then as I was poking around, I found there were two links there where you could legally watch the episode (freevee and pluto I think). At any rate, I think possibly your best bet for that kind of situation is to set up a little media server and "get those files on there" so to speak. If you really want physical media, that's cool and I get that, but if what you need is "I want to watch this when I want" then I'd start thinking about setting up what we call a network attached storage (NAS) that can serve up all your music and vids to your roku or phone or whatever. The way I usually do that is with a raspberry pi and a hard drive, but you could do it with virtually any old computer, the caveat being power consumption. A raspberry pi costs about $50 and uses about 5 watts just sitting there idling. Am I on the right track? Or are you still thinking physical media?
Edit: actually a used or lower end Pi costs about $30 and would serve that purpose very well. Shame, I have about 10 of them here but shipping will cost more than buying a new one from Digikey.

 

[JoshT]

If you really want physical media, that's cool and I get that, but if what you need is "I want to watch this when I want" then I'd start thinking about setting up what we call a network attached storage (NAS) that can serve up all your music and vids to your roku or phone or whatever. The way I usually do that is with a raspberry pi and a hard drive, but you could do it with virtually any old computer, the caveat being power consumption.

I need to do this too. Set up a home server and/or NAS, maybe more than one.

I have thououghly enjoied my SiriusXM subscription for the last decade, if you sampled my local broadcast radio you'd understand. I finally recently bought into the streaming media box thing with an ONN TV box from Wallyworld. Even with those I still try to buy a lot of what I like in movies and music. Most of my stuff can be streamed for "free", but we've all seen how that can change in an instant. I'm going to keep trying to buy physical copies of the stuff I like/want, doesn't mean that I want carry all of it around to enjoy it.

I need to rip all of it to digital so I can watch it anywhere rather than having to carry around something with a DVD drive. If I have it saved to a personal storage w/backups, it's kind of difficult for them to take it away. There's also some classic stuff that I'd like to captuire for personal use before the political climate changes again and decides it isn't POC and should be erased.

 

[Blmpkn]

Our worlds collide

I have a special personal set of rules for fair use, which is "I'd make my own copy, but if someone else has already done that for me, might as well grab that and save the environment."

Funny enough, I just posted an imdb link to that special in that other thread... and then as I was poking around, I found there were two links there where you could legally watch the episode (freevee and pluto I think). At any rate, I think possibly your best bet for that kind of situation is to set up a little media server and "get those files on there" so to speak. If you really want physical media, that's cool and I get that, but if what you need is "I want to watch this when I want" then I'd start thinking about setting up what we call a network attached storage (NAS) that can serve up all your music and vids to your roku or phone or whatever. The way I usually do that is with a raspberry pi and a hard drive, but you could do it with virtually any old computer, the caveat being power consumption. A raspberry pi costs about $50 and uses about 5 watts just sitting there idling. Am I on the right track? Or are you still thinking physical media?
Edit: actually a used or lower end Pi costs about $30 and would serve that purpose very well. Shame, I have about 10 of them here but shipping will cost more than buying a new one from Digikey.

Physical media is king In my eyes. I've been through too many 'data corrupted' type moments in my life.. and now have a hard time trusting data storage lol.

I may have found an easy out!.. just getting myself a 'region unrestricted' bluray/DVD player. After more searching today.. there IS a ton of TopGear dvds and stuff on Amazon that I had no idea were out there.. even a few specials I've never heard of..

Apparently.. lots of DVD players and media players for PC really don't care what region a disc is meant to be played in.. they'll play them anyways. It's the companies that actually make the discs that insist on the whole stupid region thing for whatever reason

I'll probably just buy a couple and see what happens when I try and play them. Got an Xbox 360, XBone, and an older bluray player to try them in. If for whatever reason none of them want to cooperate I'll buy the 'region unrestricted' player and then proceed to be happier than a pig In shit.


Now... just gotta find a way to watch Richard's restoration show. Its on discovery's streaming service IIRC.. but is geo-locked to only those in the UK wtf.

 

[JoshT]

Physical media is king In my eyes. I've been through too many 'data corrupted' type moments in my life.. and now have a hard time trusting data storage lol.

The key to that is good quality hardware, backups, and avoiding questionable websites and software. That said, I'm bad about not following my own advice there and rarely have a problem beyond forgetting where I stored something. ...and that's another reason I need to set up a NAS and/or server.


These days it seems to mostly be bluray players that are region locked, especially the 4K units. Probably mainstream DVD players too, but I haven't shopped for them in a while. A lot of the cheap DVD players you can get online seem to be unlocked and will play discs from nearly any region. I've been looking at those recently for my parent's house. They put a 24" TV in the back room for the grandkid (my niece) to watch her kids stuff. The streaming service has a lot of kids content, but need a DVD player for the ones that they have around.

I wonder if the X360 or XB1 could be modded to be region free? I don't own consoles, so it's something I've never considered or looked into. Considering the low price of DVD players,It may not be worth risking the system.

As for the geo-locked streaming service. If you can set it up on your device, VPN is your friend. Use VPN to send your internet traffic through a server in the UK and Discovery's service should think you are there.

 

[Blmpkn]

The key to that is good quality hardware, backups, and avoiding questionable websites and software. That said, I'm bad about not following my own advice there and rarely have a problem beyond forgetting where I stored something. ...and that's another reason I need to set up a NAS and/or server.


These days it seems to mostly be bluray players that are region locked, especially the 4K units. Probably mainstream DVD players too, but I haven't shopped for them in a while. A lot of the cheap DVD players you can get online seem to be unlocked and will play discs from nearly any region. I've been looking at those recently for my parent's house. They put a 24" TV in the back room for the grandkid (my niece) to watch her kids stuff. The streaming service has a lot of kids content, but need a DVD player for the ones that they have around.

I wonder if the X360 or XB1 could be modded to be region free? I don't own consoles, so it's something I've never considered or looked into. Considering the low price of DVD players,It may not be worth risking the system.

As for the geo-locked streaming service. If you can set it up on your device, VPN is your friend. Use VPN to send your internet traffic through a server in the UK and Discovery's service should think you are there.

Ah ha! Yes... VPN...

I really oughtta just get myself a computer

I suppose I could figure out how to VPN myself into some UK television through my steamdeck somehow..