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My buddy has a full fleet of equipment, (dump trucks, backhoes, loaders, etc) and its all new equipment so he wanted to get at least 1 antique to go along with them, so he finally found a dozer, its supposedly a 1964 john deere 430C. but when i google "1964 john deere 430" i just get farm tractors, and when I type "1964 john deere 430 dozer" i barely get any results. so I was wondering if any of you could tell from the pics if its a different year or generation or if the stickers on her are completely wrong?





thanks for any help.

Also, my pop has a 1939 Caterpillar D4 that I was gonna try to get off him, its only been used for the PTO to run his sawmill for the last ~25-30 years, and before that she must of only been used for towing wood and equipment because shes still in wicked shape for being over 70 years old.
she came from the factory without a blade, so i was wondering if that would make her less desirable for collectors in the resale market? if she was re painted and had all the little stuff fixed up what do you guys think it would be worth?
 


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How sure are you it is a '64?

The common 430's ceased production in '60 and they had a crawler variant that was very similar sized although the nose was different. That could be a farm tractor vs industrial difference too or maybe something somebody changed. Even as a crawler the green and yellow ones are ag and the straight yellow are industrial. The dash, hood (with bodyline) and running gear look very similar. Is it a two cylinder?

Here is the specs and serial # lookup for the older 430s.

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/005/1/4/5144-john-deere-430c.html

The "New Generation" came out in '60, curvier sheetmetal and the two cylinders went away.

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/0/5/57-john-deere-1010c.html

From a collectors point of view, I would think a nice clean D4 without a blade would be worth more than one with a blade that has been passed around construction sites and ran in the ground several times. The lighter weight would also make it easier to haul which is a plus. Value... no clue.

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/002/9/8/2982-caterpillar-d4.html

We rebuilt the mag for the starting engine of a D7, parts were terrible to find and fund. I don't know of the D4 has a gas starting engine or not but keep that in mind.

I am not much of a crawler guy but I research weird and wacky farm equipment for a living...
 
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How sure are you it is a '64?

The common 430's ceased production in '60 and they had a crawler variant that was very similar sized although the nose was different. That could be a farm tractor vs industrial difference too or maybe something somebody changed. Even as a crawler the green and yellow ones are ag and the straight yellow are industrial. The dash, hood (with bodyline) and running gear look very similar. Is it a two cylinder?

Here is the specs and serial # lookup for the older 430s.

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/005/1/4/5144-john-deere-430c.html

The "New Generation" came out in '60, curvier sheetmetal and the two cylinders went away.

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/0/5/57-john-deere-1010c.html

From a collectors point of view, I would think a nice clean D4 without a blade would be worth more than one with a blade that has been passed around construction sites and ran in the ground several times. The lighter weight would also make it easier to haul which is a plus. Value... no clue.

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/002/9/8/2982-caterpillar-d4.html

We rebuilt the mag for the starting engine of a D7, parts were terrible to find and fund. I don't know of the D4 has a gas starting engine or not but keep that in mind.

I am not much of a crawler guy but I research weird and wacky farm equipment for a living...
Thank you sir, yes she is a 2 cylinder, so guessing that means its older than a '60?
I'll try to find the serial number off her today.


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160634 is the serial number.. Can't find anywhere to scan it though





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Thank you sir, yes she is a 2 cylinder, so guessing that means its older than a '60?
I'll try to find the serial number off her today.
She be a 1960 model per the serial. :icon_thumby:
 

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Yeah just found it last night. Thanks for all your help man


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