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Grumpaw

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More..
1964 Toyota Stout pick up
1948 Datsun pick up. Datsun was making small pick up trucks as far back as the early 1930's.
 

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Yeah the person standing next to the Matador for reference makes all the difference. Looks like something from Thomas the tank engine. Waiting for it to change expressions.

I've seen a Toyota stout in person somewhere before.
 

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The rear end on that sure screams VW swing axle gear box. Most likely Type II stuff with gear reduction axles.
Nope...centrally located engine that powered front wheels.
 

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1962 Mitsubishi 360 pick up.
 

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This has turned into a really cool thread.
 

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Nope...centrally located engine that powered front wheels.
What a goofy set up... it sure does have VW written all over the drivetrain... even if it in the wrong place.
 

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A Dutch/Netherlands 1967 DAF33 pick up...
A 1960 Subaru pick up
A 1954 Italian ISO 500 Micro
 

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I don't count birthday's anymore...just happy to be looking down at the ground instead of looking up
And, for those of you who thought mini/small American pick ups were modern,
I give you the 1940 Bantam Pick Up. Bantam was a well know auto and truck maker in the 30's and 40's. They were the original company to answer the Army's need for a scout vehicla, and produced the first Jeeps.
But they couldn't make the necessary quanity, so Ford, Willys Overland, and other companies got the Jeep contract.
The 1940 Bantam...
And, an original 1940 Bantam Jeep
 

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1950 Gulbrod Atlas pick up. Made in Germany after the war to compete against the Matador.
Had a 575 cc two cylinder, 2 stroke engine.
 

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Some fun pickup truck fact's...
Prior to WW ll Ford, Chevy, Dodge pickups and trucks were produced all over Europe, Asia, China, Philippines under license to the companies. WW ll saw axis powers take over the factories. When you see a WW ll movie where it looks like the Germans or Japanese are driving American trucks, they are as they used the factories for themselves along with all the tooling.
After the war, the reason European and Japanese trucks got so small was simply due to a shortage of materials, shortage of gas, and cost. If you look at the Matador and the Gutbrod you'll see the frames are nothing but tubing and the bodies are simple flat steel stamping's, due to lack of machines at the time. Steel was saved by making the beds from wood.
In Europe the reason for small and very small engines was because at the time, after the war, people's vehicles were taxed by their cc displacement. Thus you will not see many engines over 999 cc as that was a big increase in tax's 1000 and up. Only the rich and well to do could afford regular cars and trucks. The smaller the engine the smaller the tax.
Also, in Europe and Japan, there is not much oil produced and almost all fuel had to be imported raising prices. Small engines use less fuel.
You may also see some 3 wheeled vehicles called "trucks". These were made by companies that had specialized in motorcycles and bicycles. They also didn't require any big costly machinery to produce.
They were also taxed as "motorcycles" and had small cc engines, thus tax was minimal.
Britain made small cars for their fuel efficiency, and also because getting around their post war cities was hard due to very narrow streets and roads of the time. Also, $$$. Only the well to do could afford large vehicles and the gas to power them.
Just some history for today...
 

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A Dutch/Netherlands 1967 DAF33 pick up...
A 1960 Subaru pick up
A 1954 Italian ISO 500 Micro
I think you have a pic that's missing, where is the Subaru?;

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The Subaru is the little blue front cab with the drop down side. Guy standing in the bed.
It was based on the Subaru 360 of the time.
Also came in a van.
First series in 1958 had a 360 cc 2 stroke, 2 cyl engine mounted in the rear ( the hump at the rear of pick up box). Made a fire blazing 16 hp. Had to mix oil with gas when you filled up.
Pick up and van weighed around 1000 lbs.
 

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1) Since Nissan/Datsun was in the truck business so early on I do believe they are the #1 all time truck maker now and will be so 50 years from now.

2) I want the '64 Toyota Stout. Does it come with AC and a file cabinet center console?

Grumpaw, is that Ranger hitch you removed still available? Last time I tried I couldn't PM.
 

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