the news is sure interesting tonight, assassination attempt?

[rusty ol ranger]

i remember watching that thinking....sure whatever when i was 13 or so.











divide and concur.



this is my fault the state of my country.... tolerance is a vorpal weapon.




20 years ago .....one of the times I was picking my youngest of four daughters up from school.... peta was there telling our children about the evils of fishing. there was a cute little coloring book with a dad looking like a raging hitler wearing a fishing hat loaded with weapons of mass worm and poor baby minnow destruction.... about to stab a terrified worm with a hook as the first images..... this was all the way downriver Detroit in Gibralter MI....and to say the least...a fishing community. one of our friends at the time a bit more then 10 years my senior....a rotary and board member and very well to do super mom... immediately located and went to town on the principal and teachers. this led to other discoveries. heather has two mommies and king and king being my favorite standouts.


now my elder children went to private school before we moved back home to detroit....and there was no way my sorry captain GED ass was going to be able to afford that education back down in the city....especially for 4 children.... but where we were had the best of the public education around so i took the practical cowardly way out to live with it..

after these battles....and we had no intention of ever having any more children as our eldest was already in high school....i was really wondering if i could let Zoie stay in a public school.....things were getting bad. no reason to teach 5 year olds shit like this.

i knew and wheeled with people in california that were developing what would be common core years later... they kept me informed of the coming changes in education so i was concerned, just not applying the fallout of that knowledge because i am far too busy being a waste of life idiot slaving away.


then...SURPRISE!!! somehow my wife was mysteriously with child once again. which turned out to be young Bob whom is now 18 and graduated. and compared to the first 4... a fawking gremlin.

at that time 2001-2005 i was seriously studying venezuala and hugo chavez and also coincidently in the american political sphere certain people were coming to the scene with mirrored talking points....in some cases word for word.

at night i would watch c span(which drove my wife nuts) and there were some sessions on that i would listen to(real political victims) the venezualens testifying... crying.... telling us to just live with the hanging chads while forum surfing here at TRS and the defunct RRORC.. they were saying.....begging .....dont do what Hugo was doing. they knew how it worked....not good. this was 01-05 era mind you.


i told my wife that the new baby (literally the first thing after pregnancy confirmation) was not to set a foot in a public school until he or she was old enough to defend rational thinking...true critical thinking so that when the time came that they THE know betters....the know whats best for YOU....the ones at peta and pushing king and king and heather has two mommies would want to put litter boxes in public school bathrooms....that my children would not vote for that.

DEI was right there in my face....and should have been ruthlessly stomped out....ease of life and cowardice prevailed. I FAILED AS A FREE AMERICAN.


people i knew at the time....especially that had high level education... that were my peer group were distinctly split. WE knew this was not right...



America......at the end of the day.....the single fundamental founding principal is INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY. you can only have that with a constitutional republic.

democracy as commonly used....doooomacracy is 50 percent plus 1. that is NOT AMERICA. it is not an American value.


life is not fair.


the point of this place....you are supposed to be free with minimal government interference and definitely minimal central planning....(see Aaron Burr)...our education is designed to take that away so you will choose to have overlords....that know better. or rather....just accept the status quo. Everyone knows Biden isnt running the country....and seems to be ok with that....well...at least close to half.

you are here now.....Amerizuala....not fully cured yet...

so i pray that the fundemental transformation is not complete.... anybody that wants to change something fundementally hates....at its core what something is.


you can vote your way into Tyranny......you can not vote your way out. so i pray we shake our structure loose before the cement of socialism hardens.

we will get the hell we deserve if we dont.





as to how this happened...





they let it happen. because we let it happen. settled for the machine instead of a commander in chief.







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Im not going to say much to this except i agree.

For years and years people bitched "oh there is no difference between the two parties"

Now there is...a BIG difference...and people need to wake up and realize that only one side is truely for the country.

 

[sgtsandman]

Supposedly, the federal security detail he has wasn't even Secret Service but fill ins from DHS. The First Lady was in the state as well as Michelle Obama (I think). Secret Service was sent to them and DHS back filled for Trump.

Also, the anti-sniper team are reported to have had the shooter in their sights for three minutes but were denied permission to take the shooter out multiple times.

 

[pentode]

Oof if that last part is true that's nuts.

 

[sgtsandman]

Oof if that last part is true that's nuts.

I'm trying to be very careful with my wording since it's still relatively new and since reporting from the main news sources has been so poor. All we have is the back channels to get any kind of reliable information and that information can be rife with rumor and made up crap as well.

Needless to say, things were not handled well from the beginning and being that the opposition candidate's administration is calling the shots at DHS... Well... I'll let you decide.... But, up until recently RFK was being denied Secret Service security and certain parties we trying to strip Secret Service protection from Trump. It makes one think a little.

 

[pentode]

I'm a firm believer in Hanlon's razor:

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Edit: also the Peter principle, and those two things combined pretty much sum up government IMHO

 

[bobbywalter]

I'm a firm believer in Hanlon's razor:

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Edit: also the Peter principle, and those two things combined pretty much sum up government IMHO

hence my creedo. f--- the government.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Just heard on CBS that irans been trying to assassinate him for a while. They gave him a beefier detail because of it

Not that its tied to this but...

 

[rumblecloud]

The image of the ladder is extremely disturbing.
Too many loose ends. Damn I hate this shit.
Time to invest in more stuff. You know, food and things.

 

[bobbywalter]

The image of the ladder is extremely disturbing.
Too many loose ends. Damn I hate this shit.
Time to invest in more stuff. You know, food and things.

indeed.

 

[Jim Oaks]

I'm 56, so I've seen quite a few Presidential elections over the years. I can remember a time when the difference between candidates wasn't that obvious and you really had to look to find it. Today the parties seem night and day different from one another. I'm not sure if the parties are different today than what they were 30 years ago, or if they're just really extreme now.

It seems like Democrats would cut costs, and Republicans would spend. Democrats would cut back on the military, and Republicans would build it up. I remember when Clinton got rid of our national deficit. That will never happen again.

Speaking of Clinton, I was on a Presidential detail for him and VP Al Gore in the early 90s when I was a State Trooper in Cleveland. I've also spent quite a bit of time on Governor details, so this security fiasco really strikes a nerve with me.

The idea that a guy shows up at a secret service detail with a ladder and rifle is just to mind blowing.

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I can believe that there could have been a situation where the sniper wasn't given an immediate green light. If true, imagine the anguish that sniper feels knowing a civilian died because he wasn't allowed to take his shot.

Sometimes I think the country has gone to shit, and then at times wonder if it really has gotten that much worse, or if we just see and hear more of what's happening in this country because of social media.

As far as Trumps detail, I think a former President running for re-election should have an increased detail. I think they're at a much higher risk than former President's not running as well as other candidates that haven't held the office before. It would be interesting to see the differences in secret service details for Carter, Bush, Obama, and Trump.

Just imagine the turmoil in this country if Trump had been killed. The right would have blamed the left, the left would have celebrated (it's crazy that there are people posting on social media and complaing that the assassination failed), and violence would have erupted.

I'm not pinning this all on the left. Trump has a big mouth. I liked him as President and thought he did a good job, but there were times I just wanted him to shut the hell up and do his job. I'm tired of any candidate that feels they need to tell me how bad the other candidate is instead of just telling me how they're going to serve me in office.

I was watching some videos of Ronald Reagan recently. He was a class act. I wish we had had another candidate like him.

 

[B964]

^^^ I'm also 56 and have seen a few things.
1992 HW Bush came to do a speech about conservation basically at my house. Wife and I were Park Rangers and lived on site at the park/nature preserve.
The Secret Service was extremely detailed in site preparation. Days before planning where when and who. Determined our trailer was positioned to be a near perfect concealed sniper nest. Day of searched our living quarters again and posted an agent at the door. We were not allowed back in till POTUS was gone. I still have the lead agents business card and the check from Bush/Quayle campaign for "helping" with security somewhere. $40.00 or something.
Hard to believe they left an elevated position that close without a team stationed on it. In fact, impossible to believe.
The left nearly dancing in the streets about it is a shame. I'll keep in civil but the worst you can think of happening to them is not even close to what I would suggest.

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

I would be very wary of believing everything posted on the net. There WILL be nation states that will post crap to try to make a bigger devide between the american peoples. Snippets of news out of context. Outright lies...

 

[JoshT]

I would be very wary of believing everything posted on the net. There WILL be nation states that will post crap to try to make a bigger devide between the american peoples. Snippets of news out of context. Outright lies...

What you talking about? We don't need to worry about foreign interests doing that, our own people do it.

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

What you talking about? We don't need to worry about foreign interests doing that, our own people do it.

Too true... Sadly.

 

[Jim Oaks]

Today the news is saying that officers became suspicious of the shooter when he entered the security area with a range finder. At one point he was looking at sniper positions through the range finder and they were looking back at him. They lost track of him when he left and returned with a backpack. He was able to climb onto an air conditioner and then onto the roof.

He had explosives in his car and had a remote detonator on him. He had a bicycle stashed nearby.

Last photo of Thomas Crooks taken by Secret Service

A photo of would-be assassin Thomas Crooks, that was circulated to law enforcement before the crazed gunman attempted to kill ex-president Donald Trump , has been released publicly.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This story just gets worse for the Secret Service. Sounds like the only thing missing was him holding up a sign that says I'm here to shoot Trump.