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The term "Automatic" really doesn't exactly tell all...you still have to shift it into P/R/N/D, or now I guess "S" mode or "M" mode depending on the car...so its not exactly "Automatic".

I'll take either, but for fun a manual is certainly the way to go, and less prone to failures, although the C5 that was in my 84 Ranger, and the C6 in my 88 F250 haven't had any problems, in the time I've had them, the Ranger is long gone but the F250 is still going, the Ranger I have no clue if it is still around anywhere but I know when I sold it the transmission was still going and it did a lot of towing, as has my F250. I guess many issues come down to how well the vehicle is maintained through its lifetime.
 

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Id kill for a BW T18 behind the 460 in my 97.
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So how does one classify the gyro torque in my coronet? It's sorta of an auto... But has a clutch
 

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So how does one classify the gyro torque in my coronet? It's sorta of an auto... But has a clutch
I believe that was called "Torque-O-Matic" when it first came out in the late 40s pickups right?
 

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Id kill for a BW T18 behind the 460 in my 97.
Screw automatics.
I think a 460 would have had a T19. People could break those,too. In the late 80's we sold a pair of F250's to 2 brothers who were contractors with creeper gear transmissions and Fisher snow plows. One brother was on the big side and could be hard to get along with, the other was huge and a laid back, easy going guy. Most of the time. One morning his truck wouldn't shift out of second- broken shift fork if I remember right- he bent the lever up to the dash before he gave up and had it towed in.
 

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So how does one classify the gyro torque in my coronet? It's sorta of an auto... But has a clutch
That's a "safety clutch". It's a true and proper automatic, they didn't trust them yet and so gave you a clutch pedal to physically disengage the engine from the trans in an emergency.

My grandfather had a 47 New Yorker with the "Fluid Drive" and the pedals were labeled, the clutch pedal actually said "Safety Clutch".
 

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Ah, so this one isn't the fluid drive... It's the mechanical gyroscope. You have to use the clutch when you change between park, neutral, reverse, low, and high, but not when you start and stop.
 

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Ah, so this one isn't the fluid drive... It's the mechanical gyroscope. You have to use the clutch when you change between park, neutral, reverse, low, and high, but not when you start and stop.
Does the gyroscopic action keep it from falling over?
 

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I prefer manuals but, depending on the application, sometimes an automatic can be the better choice.
 

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One primary difference I see in the two is a Manual drive vehicle requires both hands and both feet at all times to safely operate (careful getting that morning coffee into the mix) and an Automatic requires only one foot and one hand to operate (not considering available handicap accessories)
 

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That's a "safety clutch". It's a true and proper automatic, they didn't trust them yet and so gave you a clutch pedal to physically disengage the engine from the trans in an emergency.

My grandfather had a 47 New Yorker with the "Fluid Drive" and the pedals were labeled, the clutch pedal actually said "Safety Clutch".
So could you rev them up and drop the clutch?
 

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