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Noticed a tire looking low on the Fun50 yesterday. Checked and it was down to 15psi this morning. Found the nail, marked it with yellow crayon and went to the tire store. They told me it was too close to the previous patch - need a new tire. $400++ Ouch! So I Said go ahead and order it. I don't want an unsafe tire. Then the girl at the counter discovered that I had purchased road hazard protection. Replacement will only be about $80.

Great big, huge YAY!!!!!

I don't often pay for extended warranties and thigs like that. But this was a good decision. Especially since there are 5 or 6 brand new housing developments within 3 miles of my house and I live on the main road to the county landfill. New tire is on order. I'll plug the old one so I can drive carefully for the next few days.
 


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"Too close to the previous patch"? Man, that's a new one. I'm suspicious. You'd think one patch placed inside the tire should work for both leaks if the old patch is removed and a new one installed.

And $400+ for one tire? :eek::poop:
 

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"Too close to the previous patch"? Man, that's a new one. I'm suspicious. You'd think one patch placed inside the tire should work for both leaks if the old patch is removed and a new one installed.

And $400+ for one tire? :eek::poop:
Would likely work ok for me? "Probably". But it's a speed rated tire. Plus, I haul the Ranger around on a 20ft car trailer several times a year. The issue is that with the damaged places so close together, it could cause issues when the tires heat up under load. It's not the first time or place that I've heard of this.

$400? Yeah. Michelin Pilot Sport All Seasons in 315-35-ZR20-110Y. The first set of these tires that I bought a few years ago were over $200 each. Last year, when I bought replacements, they are right around $300 per tire. Now, with petroleum prices up, they're just over $400 per tire. Thank Biden. Thank Putin. Etc. Etc. Etc.


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The "patch" too close to another "patch" is because of the Belts inside the tire, when you install a "patch", a plug, it weakens the belt at that spot, not a big deal, but if you have to put in another plug next to it.................well that's the issue

Like drilling holes in the frame to mount things, you don't want to drill the holes too close together or you will weaken the frame at that spot
Tire belts need to flex all the time so more susceptible to "tearing" at a weak spot
 
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Ah, makes sense, EricBPhoto and RonD. Thanks. I thought most shops today stuck an adhesive patch on the inside of the tire instead of using the old-style plug in the hole itself.
 

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Ah, makes sense, EricBPhoto and RonD. Thanks. I thought most shops today stuck an adhesive patch on the inside of the tire instead of using the old-style plug in the hole itself.
The good ones, lately, use a patch with a plug built into it. So it does both. But the belts are already potentially damaged by whatever punctured the tire.
 

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You know, I worked construction, mostly new houses for 11 years and since I’ve done another 14 years doing varying levels of construction. Knock on wood, never picked up a nail or screw. Dad picked up a 1/2” bolt in an 8 ply tire once, right through the tread, but that was it. At one point I spent almost three years working for Autozone and in that time picked 4 or 5 nails and screws. As it happened, I had a plug kit in the truck so I would just pry out the problem and shove a plug in. Never paid much attention to which tire it was but when I replaced the tires, all of the plugs were in the same tire…
 

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Right rear is the one that usually gets the punctured, but rear on either side is more likely than front

Front tires bounce screw, nail, or ?? up and rear tire gets the puncture

Roads are crowned for water run off so things tend to move/collect on the right side
 

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I seem to collect objects with the driver side rear tire. Passenger side front keeps getting bent rim from pot-holes or people running me off narrow roads.

I believe I actually heard this puncture happen a few days ago.
 

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New tire being installed right now.
 

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Right rear is the one that usually gets the punctured, but rear on either side is more likely than front

Front tires bounce screw, nail, or ?? up and rear tire gets the puncture

Roads are crowned for water run off so things tend to move/collect on the right side
Right rear most often in my experience too.
 

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I finally fixed the flat tire on my non-winter set of tires for the hhr, was on the left rear and was a nearly 3” screw with odd threads, Im thinking it was some sort of roofing or sheet metal screw. Simple plug kit in my toolbox has saved me a bit over the years. Always seems to be a back tire. At least this last one wasnt a newer tire, it’s pretty close to needing replacement due to age & wear.
 

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You guys with left rear punctures should try staying in your own lane... just saying.
 

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You guys with left rear punctures should try staying in your own lane... just saying.
I pay for the whole road. I'm gonna use the whole road
 

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