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Ranger850

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I think he want's it wide enough to cover his BBQ.
Yeah, I noticed that and added the "EDIT" at the bottom of my post.

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If you do a 4 post that is 9' at the sidewalk side and 8' at the house side (just estimates on your roof height). Sloped so the rain/snow melt runs on to the existing roof no gutters are needed. It will be high enough not to block the kitchen window view. Tying in to the existing building as you know extra structure is needed. Heck, you could even do a 3 post with 2 on the door side and one at the sidewalk.
 

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IF @scotts90ranger wants to do POSTS, that's a different approach that requires him to get posts. I think he was wanting to use materials he already has. A small, slim A frame will do what he described he wanted.
 

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@Ranger850 your sketch is basically what I'm expecting but was going to go the whole width of that section of roof, if you've done a bunch of awnings and think it will work then that's good to hear... I should be able to see some daylight at home tomorrow afternoon and maybe do some looking at things... I've got a bunch of short 2x4 chunks I might screw together for a mockup of a bracket... that door does open inward as any good exterior door should :)

On the brackets I had bolts going lower for more shear strength and updraft protection, the bending strength of 2" tubing should actually be pretty good to even out the load.

I know the deck thing is a disaster, things accumulate, those stupid chromed aluminum 17" wheels need to go away, the bench needs a different home and that rusted out BBQ needs to go away, and I need to lift and level some chunks of that concrete... the to do list of a homeowner is never ending...
 

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@Ranger850 your sketch is basically what I'm expecting but was going to go the whole width of that section of roof, if you've done a bunch of awnings and think it will work then that's good to hear... I should be able to see some daylight at home tomorrow afternoon and maybe do some looking at things... I've got a bunch of short 2x4 chunks I might screw together for a mockup of a bracket... that door does open inward as any good exterior door should :)

On the brackets I had bolts going lower for more shear strength and updraft protection, the bending strength of 2" tubing should actually be pretty good to even out the load.

I know the deck thing is a disaster, things accumulate, those stupid chromed aluminum 17" wheels need to go away, the bench needs a different home and that rusted out BBQ needs to go away, and I need to lift and level some chunks of that concrete... the to do list of a homeowner is never ending...
Get you some of these to make you life easier. Mount the brackets loosely, then drop the frame in and tighten brackets to the house first then brackets to frame.
 

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Hey are you reading my mind? I just built the same thing over my garage. its 16' wide spans and around 9' to catch 8 sheets of 2'x10' 26ga galvanized corrugated roofing. I used 2" square steel tubing of various thicknesses, and 2x4 rectangle tube for the front span.

Rather than just burn it all together with a welder. I built it to come apart. I used 1 3/4" on the ends that drop into my 2" posts and ran through bolts. I drilled and tapped the posts so the cross bars bolt in nice and square with some flat bar for tabs.

The rest goes together with sheet metals screws strategically and minimally placed.

I will try to post some pics. but its not done yet, and its raining lol. I missed the deadline, and had to stuff the garage. I just need make/attach the top joists and screw down the roofing...
 

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Weather was finally good last weekend and I did some work... got some of the square tubing cleaned off of the welds and rust and looked at the roof metal I have... turns out it's 4' not 3'... I think I'm going to do 3 wall brackets and two posts... one post at each end. I just remembered a few days ago that I have 8' pieces of 1.5" round pipe/tube that I made my traction bar out of...

As you can see from my sheet metal stack, that pallet on top is a 4'x4' and there's quite the stack under it... the other picture is obviously of under the eave...

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Tightened up the guide bearings on my horizontal bandsaw tonight and made some more cuts that are MUCH NICER than what it made before... turns out the eccentric bolts were loose on the leading edge of the band... cuts dang near perfect now... had the saw for like 4 years now since I got it for $60 but didn't use it until last weekend...

That said, have the metal cut for the brackets so far, no braces at this point, not sure if they're needed, 2" tubing is way overkill for bending I'm pretty sure, especially if I use two legs...

So far I miter cut the uprights and first part at 45 degrees and made the other cut at around 6 degrees which doubled is around 2.5-12 which should be plenty... We'll see how far I get with welding over the weekend, I might get a fair amount done... it's going to get awkward real quick making it a whole assembly but it'll be a nicer final product...
 

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Got a good portion done today, not as much as I'd hoped but hey...

This thing started to get unwieldy...

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Yes my welding setup in the shop currently is really that silly, I don't have enough electricity to run a welder... that issue should be fixed around March apparently according to the power company... I had the 3 brackets built last weekend and the 4 2" tubes done last weekend, today I started by putting in one row of tube then test fitting, then adding the second row of tube and made a row of angle iron (the higher row... it's bed frame, free is free...)

That stack of white stuff on the hand truck to the right of the welder is the sheet metal for the roof, it's all the pieces that has a row of holes that will line up with the middle square tube...

Next step is to drill 9 holes for the lag bolts, then primer the whole assembly, then paint the whole assembly, then mount it up, then build the two legs, then put the roof on and call it done...
 

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Scotts,

Looking at the photo, I would extend the main roof instead, however far you want and use support posts; at least one on each end with 45° bracing unless longer than 8 feet.
 

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why not just get one of those plastic little storage sheds to put the bbq in?
 

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Because I want to be able to use it, it rains too much here to do something like that... plus this makes the deck more usable... we'll see how it turns out in a couple weeks...
 

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That looks like a heavy SOB. I hope you have help hanging that sucker on the wall 🧱.
 

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yee, it's not light, but not too bad, more than I can put up on my own... conveniently the garage isn't too far away so I can just drag my engine hoist over there... I don't think the tubing I have is 1/8" wall, it's lighter, never measured.

I don't think I'll be able to get the lag bolts into studs, my brother brought up the idea of using toggle nuts or whatever you call those steel spring loaded things top go on the other side, those in 3/8" should more than cover things even just on the top then have two lag bolts under that per leg...

Also will be adding a corner gusset at the 90 degree corner on the inside, just a triangle of tubing...
 

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