• Welcome Visitor! Please take a few seconds and Register for our forum. Even if you don't want to post, you can still 'Like' and react to posts.

SAS HOW-To?

Diesel_brad

Member
Joined
Dec 9, 2009
Messages
189
Reaction score
1
Points
18
Location
Gilbert PA
Vehicle Year
04
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4.0
Transmission
Manual
Is there one? With a parts list and what needs to be done?

I am sick of the Torsion bars NOT being able to take the weight of my 450-500lb plow and the tires rubbing. I am NOT looking to lift it to the moon, just trying to match the chevy rear springs and run 265s on 8" wheels with NO clearance issues.

04, 4wd, 4.0, 5spd, supercab. Edge
 


Surrey

New Member
Joined
Jan 12, 2011
Messages
1,800
Reaction score
9
Points
0
Location
Vancouver, Canada
Vehicle Year
1989
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
2.9
Transmission
Automatic
Its not quite that simple, it takes a bit of figuring what you wanna do, because that helps determine what you need.

For instance what axle to pick. Coil or Leaf. the list goes on...

What there is around here is a LOT of builds involving a SAS, so go look through some.

A good place to start could be the Truck Of The Month Winner in the top left corner.
 

1986fordranger

New Member
Joined
Mar 13, 2011
Messages
229
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
28
Location
central VT
Vehicle Year
1986/1999
Make / Model
ford
Engine Size
2.3l/4.0l
Transmission
Automatic
depending on your application you might want to look into some timbren's, instead of a SAS
 

Diesel_brad

Member
Joined
Dec 9, 2009
Messages
189
Reaction score
1
Points
18
Location
Gilbert PA
Vehicle Year
04
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4.0
Transmission
Manual
Thanks for the input guys.

I already have timbrens and they are not cutting it

As for the truck of the month. that is WAY bigger than I want to go and I sure as hell do not need a fullsize 44 cut down

I was thinking keeping the truck as LOW as possible(2" over stock)
Coil springs
And if there is someway to retain the Front ABS

I guess I am looking for a Jeep axle, cherokee, wrangle, Grand, etc

But other than that, there are SO MANY threads on SAS I read for over 2 hours and came up with no real answers other than the jeep axle
 

brinker88

11/2013 OTOM Winner
Supporting Member
OTOTM Winner
Joined
Oct 14, 2010
Messages
3,498
Reaction score
36
Points
0
Location
Williamsport, Pa
Vehicle Year
1993
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4.0L
Transmission
Automatic
If you want to keep it simple, go with a cherokee Dana 30 (without the center axle disconnect and with ABS ). Use ranger coils to keep the suspension fairly stiff due to you plowing with the truck and not offroading with it. Use the y-link radius arm set up (build it yourself) and use the stock steering. You may have to splice the t.r.e at the pitman arm into your stock cherokee steering.

^ That axle is almost a bolt on affair. The only real welding you would need to do is your radius arm mounts at the frame (build a set of bolt on ones) like mine and the track bar mount at the frame.

Here's my bolt on radius arm mount I made:


 
Last edited:

Diesel_brad

Member
Joined
Dec 9, 2009
Messages
189
Reaction score
1
Points
18
Location
Gilbert PA
Vehicle Year
04
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4.0
Transmission
Manual
Well since I have a-arms and torsion bars, Nothing is going to be a bolt in deal

I guess I could live with the earlier axle with no abs and actual locking hubs
 

brinker88

11/2013 OTOM Winner
Supporting Member
OTOTM Winner
Joined
Oct 14, 2010
Messages
3,498
Reaction score
36
Points
0
Location
Williamsport, Pa
Vehicle Year
1993
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4.0L
Transmission
Automatic
Well since I have a-arms and torsion bars, Nothing is going to be a bolt in deal

I guess I could live with the earlier axle with no abs and actual locking hubs
You could use ballistic Fabrication coil buckets. You would have to sleeve your frame for a steering box though. I didn't even think to check the year of your truck.
 

MastuhWaffles

11/2014 OTOTM Winner
OTOTM Winner
TRS Banner 2012-2015
Joined
Mar 14, 2013
Messages
1,837
Reaction score
43
Points
48
Location
Texas
Vehicle Year
2007
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Type
4.0 V6
Engine Size
4.0L SOHC
Transmission
Automatic
2WD / 4WD
2WD
Tire Size
31
My credo
I need more sleep.
It's just hard to find stuff for torsion bar setups, usually the items out there are much more expensive and not very common. The nice thing is you can crank them but if you want to do some real work with them, you got some big steps to take.
 

Diesel_brad

Member
Joined
Dec 9, 2009
Messages
189
Reaction score
1
Points
18
Location
Gilbert PA
Vehicle Year
04
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4.0
Transmission
Manual
It's just hard to find stuff for torsion bar setups, usually the items out there are much more expensive and not very common. The nice thing is you can crank them but if you want to do some real work with them, you got some big steps to take.
Exactly. I have the #1 torsion bars CRANKED and timbrens. But with the plow, the tires rub. Hell the tires even rub with no plow if I pull into a driveway faster than 2mph
 

legoms013

09/2013 OTOTM
Article Contributor
OTOTM Winner
Solid Axle Swap
Joined
Apr 7, 2008
Messages
2,629
Reaction score
26
Points
0
Location
CA
Vehicle Year
1996
Make / Model
Ford Ranger
Engine Size
4.0L V6
Transmission
Automatic
2" body lift will solve the rubbing. None of your other complaints but at least it wont rub.

Cheap

Fast

Easy

No fab work.

It will be hard to put a solid axle under there and keep close to stock height or slightly higher. Just not a whole lot of room
 

Diesel_brad

Member
Joined
Dec 9, 2009
Messages
189
Reaction score
1
Points
18
Location
Gilbert PA
Vehicle Year
04
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4.0
Transmission
Manual
What is the Minimum about of lift a SAS would give me. I could live w 4" and 285s or 33s
 

Surrey

New Member
Joined
Jan 12, 2011
Messages
1,800
Reaction score
9
Points
0
Location
Vancouver, Canada
Vehicle Year
1989
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
2.9
Transmission
Automatic
You could probably build it pretty close to stock... A stock Jeep sits pretty low, and your going to use one of their front ends right?
 

brinker88

11/2013 OTOM Winner
Supporting Member
OTOTM Winner
Joined
Oct 14, 2010
Messages
3,498
Reaction score
36
Points
0
Location
Williamsport, Pa
Vehicle Year
1993
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4.0L
Transmission
Automatic
I think you'd be okay with 4". It WILL be tight though. You'll have to get creative with the track bar I'm sure.
 

982WDRanger

07/2013 OTOTM Winner
OTOTM Winner
Solid Axle Swap
Joined
Jul 11, 2010
Messages
129
Reaction score
0
Points
16
Location
Chazy, NY
Vehicle Year
1998
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4.0L, Bored .030 over!
Transmission
Manual
Hey, I hear ya on not having what you want out o your rig. I just did an SAS in May. Read my build thread, give you an idea of what you will need and how much work your looking at to be doing.
 

Sponsored Ad


Sponsored Ad

Top