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Realistic expectations at 100 yards with a .22lr?


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I liked CCI because I use it in my Ruger SR22, that gun is picky about ammo and CCI feeds consistently. But it's a pistol so I'm only shooting it at 10-20 yards max. For that it's very accurate and consistent. In the rifle however at 50-100 yards, not so much. CCI is still better than the federal auto match that can't figure out if it's sub sonic or super Sonic. If it wasn't so damn hot I'd go shoot the Eley but us Yankees can't handle the southern weather...

I'm still probably gonna end up tossing this gun in a closet when I get home and never speaking of it again. My B mag makes this thing seem about as accurate as a slingshot...
 


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Well just to get this thread back on topic

 

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The sound barrier gets ya, things get goofy, I agree with what was said above although I haven't read into all the science of it... .22LR is just good cheap fun for plinking and small game hunting, sure it's fun to see who is the least inaccurate but I find shooting targets boring...

If you want cheap fun look into pellet guns, when things aren't as stupid as they are now it's stupid cheap to shoot and screw around with, and if you find the right deal on ammo can be real cheap as in maybe a cent a shot... If you like screwing around with things and changing stuff around there's some good options on that... Say you pick up a Crosman 2240 (CO2 powered with 12g carriages or 1377/1322 basically the same thing but multi pump) you can take the base gun, look through some Crosman EVP's and find some compatible part numbers (Crosman's parts department has a good assortment of parts and they're CHEAP), remove the top, put on a steel breech and 24" barrel in either .177 or .22 then install a 1399 shoulder stock (or any of the several aftermarket options) and plink away... Or you can take the easy route and order from their custom shop... The attached picture used to be a 2240 that I dug through some parts I had and put this together... when I'm on things it is great to address the starlings in cherry season... I think I get around 50 near silent shots out of a CO2 cart...

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Polish all the contact points in the Trigger group and The BCG, pay close attention to the crown of the barrel and use subsonic cartridges. I've had good consistency with Eley tenex and CCI. The range box you buy at wally world has alot weighted variations between cartridges . The rest is trigger and breathing control.
 
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I put silicon on all my bullets so the have less wind friction. I had my barrel rifled in reverse so the bullet spins in the opposite direction, for more velocity.







None of this is true. I don't even know how to aim. I just close my eyes and pull, not squeeze, the trigger
 

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There are CW and CCW rifling, The rate of twist, say 360 degrees of rotation in 7 inches in the preferred rate for 5.56x45 nato cartridge. Same for 22lr. Lighter weight projectiles seem to do better with a faster rate of twist. The shorter projectile doesn't have the surface area to stabilize so it need a faster rate of twist before leaving the crown of the barrel. Dirty
 

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Most .22LR ammo is crap ammo. An inaccurate rifle or one with a damaged bore or crown will never shoot right. You can figure out if it’s damage by looking at the crown and peeking through the barrel with the bolt removed (on a lot of rifles but not all). For the ones you can’t pull the bolt, you can shine a light in the chamber area and peek down the muzzle. Everything should be shiny and smooth since I believe you said you just cleaned it.
 

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I shot muzzle loaders for years, eat alot of venison then. Guess if it came down to it i could pick it up again.
 

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I have 2 muzzle loaders, fired them each once and then hung them on the wall...

There are alot of people who hunt with muzzleloaders here because you can't hunt with a regular rifle in NJ. These guys drop some serious money on their black powder guns but I don't hunt and they are fairly boring to target shoot with so I never got into it.
 

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All states have different laws that seem strange to us but are specific to the region. I just don't like cleaning muzzle loaders. Black powder is unpredictable, and become unstable in extremes quickly. If you still wont tight groups just do some research. Most tricks and tips for certain weapon have been posted somewhere out here. The ruger 10/22 probably has more aftermarket jazz to shoot MOA at close ranges like 100yds. Dirty
 

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I always enjoyed shooting my black powder guns. I don't have my first couple percussion guns any longer... but I have a CVA Optima in .45 caliber using 209 shotgun primers and 150 grains of triple 7. It shoots long and straight... clean up is better with triple 7 but they're still a pain to clean.
 
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Ok here's a question for you .22 guys. I've been using only high velocity rounds and the dude at the gun shop said if I want tighter groups I need to get subsonic match rounds so I got a box of Eley tenex.

So the question is, why is a lower velocity round more accurate? :dunno:
As the bullet transitions to subsonic the shock waves behind it rear end it and knock it out of balance.

No supersonic = no transition.

I always enjoyed shooting my black powder guns. I don't have my first couple percussion guns any longer...
Had to turn them back in after the war?


;missingteeth;
 
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Uniform too?
 


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