Price out your SAS build


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So this is a 71-75 EB D44 center. It has 75-79 Dodge knuckles and brakes on it to retain the 5x4.5 bolt pattern.

$300 - 71-75 EB D44 with radius arms, brackets and spring buckets
$210 - 4.10 gears and install kit and new bolts
$335 - 4340 axleshafts and 760 joints w/fullcircle clips
$9 - axle seals
$96 - balljoints and socket
$50 - 78 dodge axle for knuckles and brakes
$159 - rotors, calipers, pads
$145 - SS braided brake hoses
$100 - wheelbearings
$550 - milemarker dodge manual hub conversion
$140 - 2.5" deaver superflex coils
$48 - front bushing kit
$125 - superlift adjustable tracbar
$60 - steel for bracket and crossmember
$210 - aussie locker
$260 - chevy 1 ton "T" steering setup
$35 - superduty pitman arm
$50 - front driveshaft
$60 - grade 8 bolts
$100 - front shocks
$125 - spider diff guard

front total = $3167

$100 - rear shocks
$50 - belltech 6400
$20 - factory lift blocks

rear total = $170

$3337 total from little 2WD to 4" lifted SAS D44. All parts are brand new except D44 housing, carrier, knuckles, caliper brackets, and radius arms and brackets. There are no old or reused junkyard parts in it. No reused brake parts or axleshafts. No reused gears. All new brake lines from master cylinder to calipers. All new bearings, seals and bushings.

Pictures from the build are here
 


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It pretty much comes down to dropping at least 5k all total and done to do a proper SAS on a ranger.

200 for axle (86 waggy D44)
500 for new outers with highsteer
80 for new calipers
200 for gears
100 for setup of gears
225 for front locker
100 for differential cover
575 for 36" TSL's
200 for Rims
250 for DIY beadlocks
400 for coilovers (helps to get a deal on a new set)
320 for coilover coils
420 for links
100 for steering box
1600 for rear axle (built currie 9")
100 for rear ubolts and plates
250 for misc bolts and metal
400 for new seats (PRP Premier Highbacks)
700 for tube for cage and tube bed

Total 6820 dollars

Thats with out any drive shafts, fuel system, rear shocks, custom exhaust and I still have alot of little nickel and dime stuff left to do.
 
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Perhaps a sticky should be made out of this information. Ideally the nice clean format that the previous posters have been using can be maintained.
 

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I'll play too, i've done 2 SAS so this will give people a reallly good idea.

First time around, did this years ago but heres what i remember...
- EB 44, radius arms, spings, detroit true trac $400
- Converted to disc brakes $100
- New calipers- $30
- Front bushing kit- $50
- Parts mike steering $260
- 5.13's Front and rear with install kits $400 (installed myself)
- Brand new 36x12.5x15 TSL's on rims $400
- Stock f250 brake lines- $50 for both I think
- Shorten front shaft $50 (could have gotten away without doing this)
- Misc Hardware $60
- Shop time and metal $80
- New u joints can't remember $60 maybe?
- 6400 Belltechs $50
- Chevy 63's $100
- 1 piece rear driveshaft $100
- New springs pearches to adjust pinion angle $20


got shocks, f250 shock mounts, rear extend brake line, and some other small things for free which helped.

So that puts me around $2150 + id say another 200 in stuff that im forgetting puts me around 2350 or so. Then i went though a few shafts, joints, and hubs so that probably put me over $2500 total i'm guessing. I would have kept this set up, but it kept breaking on me.




And what i'm almost done with right now:
Front:
- 90 Ford KP dana 60 $200
- Front diff cover $150
- New calipers and pads $150
- Highsteer arms $150
- Front spring hanger $50
- Front Springs $275
- Front 4.10 gears and carrier $50
- Front install kit $115
- f250 2wd steering arm $40
- Kingpin rebuild kits $100
- Highsteer arm stud kits $30

Total: $1310
Rear
- 14 bolt, converted to discs, shaved, diff cage, with detroit $500
- 1410 yoke $50
- Spring pearches $20
- Ubolts $50
- New rear calipers $65
- All pro pivot shackle mounts, with shackles $100
- New spring mounts for inboarding $30

Total: $815

Other
- 4, 8bolt h1's, with mag inserts + tires, got in a trade for my old suspension + cash which helped pay for some other things
- rock rings $120
- Random hardware $75
- Shit ton of welding wire, cut off wheels, flap wheels, and grinding discs $150 +
- High Angle Driveline Driveshafts $779
- 18mm greaseable bolts with nuts $50
- Crappy shocks until i can afford nicer ones $125
- Paint and rollers $50
- Brake lines $20
- New Fuel line $30, freebie s10 tank mounted in the bed
- Airsoft pellets for tires $20

Total: $1425

overall total: $3540probably closer to 3800 if all the little things are added in and stuff i'm forgetting


So there are my examples of 2 compeletly different solid axle swaps, comming in well under 5k....
 
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I'll play too, i've done 2 SAS so this will give people a reallly good idea.

First time around, did this years ago but heres what i remember...
- EB 44, radius arms, spings, detroit true trac $400
- Converted to disc brakes $100
- New calipers- $30
- Front bushing kit- $50
- Parts mike steering $260
- 5.13's Front and rear with install kits $400 (installed myself)
- Brand new 36x12.5x15 TSL's on rims $400
- Stock f250 brake lines- $50 for both I think
- Shorten front shaft $50 (could have gotten away without doing this)
- Misc Hardware $60
- Shop time and metal $80
- New u joints can't remember $60 maybe?
- 6400 Belltechs $50
- Chevy 63's $100
- 1 piece rear driveshaft $100
- New springs pearches to adjust pinion angle $20


got shocks, f250 shock mounts, rear extend brake line, and some other small things for free which helped.

So that puts me around $2150 + id say another 200 in stuff that im forgetting puts me around 2350 or so. Then i went though a few shafts, joints, and hubs so that probably put me over $2500 total i'm guessing. I would have kept this set up, but it kept breaking on me.




And what i'm almost done with right now:
Front:
- 90 Ford KP dana 60 $200
- Front diff cover $150
- New calipers and pads $150
- Highsteer arms $150
- Front spring hanger $50
- Front Springs $275
- Front 4.10 gears and carrier $50
- Front install kit $115
- f250 2wd steering arm $40
- Kingpin rebuild kits $100
- Highsteer arm stud kits $30

Total: $1310
Rear
- 14 bolt, converted to discs, shaved, diff cage, with detroit $500
- 1410 yoke $50
- Spring pearches $20
- Ubolts $50
- New rear calipers $65
- All pro pivot shackle mounts, with shackles $100
- New spring mounts for inboarding $30

Total: $815

Other
- 4, 8bolt h1's, with mag inserts + tires, got in a trade for my old suspension + cash which helped pay for some other things
- rock rings $120
- Random hardware $75
- Shit ton of welding wire, cut off wheels, flap wheels, and grinding discs $150 +
- High Angle Driveline Driveshafts $779
- 18mm greaseable bolts with nuts $50
- Crappy shocks until i can afford nicer ones $125
- Paint and rollers $50
- Brake lines $20
- New Fuel line $30, freebie s10 tank mounted in the bed
- Airsoft pellets for tires $20

Total: $1425

overall total: $3540probably closer to 3800 if all the little things are added in and stuff i'm forgetting


So there are my examples of 2 compeletly different solid axle swaps, comming in well under 5k....

Your second one would come in closer to 5k if you had to pay regular D60 price. You got a smoking deal for $200.
 

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If it is stickied, maybe it would be good to have the lists broken up into primary parts/pieces for the swap and auxillary parts (seats, cages, motors/transmissions swapped, etc) so that people can see how much just the swap would cost. Then, if they wanted to do other stuff in-addition they could browse the persons "extras" below to get ideas/pricing there.

Also something to maybe have with them would be one or two pictures so people can see how the suspension/links turned out and other things the owners did when converting.

Just an opinion.
 

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0$-Fullwidth F250 44 I cut do EB width
250$-4.88 gears and install for 44
$100-ARB for 44
$250-alloy shafts for 44 along with new ujoints
$100-flattop knuckles drilled and tapped
0$-high steer arm from conversion van
$150-Miscellaneous brake parts, all new and Warn hubs
$200-Parts to build front radius arms, track bar, shock mounts.
0$-ford 9" from early bronco
$150-disk brake swap onto 9"
0$-superior alloy shafts
0$-9" third member with 4.88's and detroit.
$425-rear leaf springs from Alcan spring
0$-Rear shocks from Z71 chevy
0$-4.5" rubicon express jeep coil springs
0$-front shocks from a jeep that someone didn't want any more.

I have $1625 into my setup.

I had well over 3K into my explorer suspension though, that was with stock shafts front and rear. Fullwidth axles.
 

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This is my total so far (all prices include tax and shipping if applicable):

$200- 97 Jeep XJ D30
$200- 4.88 gears & install kit
$0- Gear set-up
$50- Spicer 760X joints
$110- Diff cover
$100- New rotors and calipers
$60- One new unit bearing
$240- Front Aussie locker
$60- 3.73 and up carrier for D30
$290- Partsmike 1 ton Steering
$70- Reamer for knuckles and pitman arm
$65- Labor for reaming out knuckles and pitman arm
$160- 3.5" Superflex coils
$60- Radius arm and C-bushings
$110- Trac-bar materials
$50- Lower EB spring buckets
$50- F250 shock mounts
$0- Radius arms/brackets, upper spring buckets
$0- Steel used for brackets, axle truss, and wristed arm (scrap)
$50- Bolts/hardware

Still to be purchased:

$150- Front Bilstein shocks
$100- Stainless braided brake lines

$2175 Total for front. While this is a lot of money (especially considering it's a D30 :shok:) the only thing that is not brand new or rebuilt is one unit bearing and the balljoints. Also, if I upgrade to a larger front axle, I can reuse all my existing steering/trac-bar/suspension etc. from this set up.


0$- Explorer 8.8
$200- 4.88 gears and install kit
$550- Eaton E-locker
$80- New brakes
$75- Gear set-up
$50- Shock mounts and spring pads
$100- Diff cover
$235- 3" Trail Gear yota springs
$25- Bolts/hardware
$55- U-bolts/plates

Still to be purchased:

$150- Rear Bilstien shocks

$1520 Total for rear.

$3695 For everything related to axles and suspension. I have no idea what I will be spending on driveshafts so I'll edit the post once I get to that point.
 

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So this is a 71-75 EB D44 center. It has 75-79 Dodge knuckles and brakes on it to retain the 5x4.5 bolt pattern.

$300 - 71-75 EB D44 with radius arms, brackets and spring buckets
$210 - 4.10 gears and install kit and new bolts
...

front total = $3167

$100 - rear shocks
$50 - belltech 6400
$20 - factory lift blocks

rear total = $170

$3337 total from little 2WD to 4" lifted SAS D44. All parts are brand new except D44 housing, carrier, knuckles, caliper brackets, and radius arms and brackets. There are no old or reused junkyard parts in it. No reused brake parts or axleshafts. No reused gears. All new brake lines from master cylinder to calipers. All new bearings, seals and bushings.

Pictures from the build are here

But how are you going to get power to the front wheels? you still need to make your transmission a 4x4 trans and get a transfer case.

So you still have new or used trans, or rebuild yours and add the output shaft and tailhousing, plus new or used transfercase. and depending on manual or electric you need to factor in wiring it up to work and the modules needed.

Im surprised no one else caught this.
 

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I've had a transfercase in there for years. I got a manual shift free and I blew up my M5OD so when I replaced it I used a 4wd one instead of another 2wd one. That was not part of this and does not factor into it for me. It would not factor into it for someone doing this from a factory 4x4 truck either.
 

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I'll add my list in case this goes 'sticky':

$75 Dana 30 Axle (front)
$190 Jeep Wrangler Front 2"-Lift Leaf springs
$20 Front U-Bolts and Nuts
$250 Front Lock-Rite
$120 4.56 Gears
$50 Front 3.73-and-up Carrier
$90 Front install kit
$125 (2) Front Unit Bearings
$50 (2) Front Brake Rotors
$15 (2) Front Brake Pads
$500 D30 High-Steer Kit from Teraflex
$20 Spray paint and rubberized undercoating
$70 Steel for Spring pads, spring mounts, Shackles, and shackle mounts.

Total: $1575
 
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I've had a transfercase in there for years. I got a manual shift free and I blew up my M5OD so when I replaced it I used a 4wd one instead of another 2wd one. That was not part of this and does not factor into it for me. It would not factor into it for someone doing this from a factory 4x4 truck either.
No it wouldn't factor in for someone with 4x4, but you specifically said that you were going from 2wd to 4x4 with a sas.
 

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Add up the price of my SAS??? I think I'll pass...:thefinger:
 


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