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Please elaborate on what you use to prevent seized brake drum

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anti-seize on lug nuts absolutely suck if you work at a tire or break shop. I was told by a technician that it actually isn't needed on Ford's lug nuts like this
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or any lug nut at all because it affects the torque applied or something of that nature.
 


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anti-seize on lug nuts absolutely suck if you work at a tire or break shop. I was told by a technician that it actually isn't needed on Ford's lug nuts like this View attachment 78086 or any lug nut at all because it affects the torque applied or something of that nature.
It affects the torque on all threaded fasteners. It reduces friction. Therefore, when you apply 85 ft-lbs of torque (just as an example) to the fastener, there is not as much friction to overcome. So the fastener turns further and becomes tighter than it would with clean, dry threads. I've seen recommendations of 20% to 30% less torque needed.
 

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I checked thoroughly to make sure I installed the drum brakes correctly. I do the brake pedal thing also while reversing periodically.
The adjuster lever that came with the hardware kit is correct. I checked. But the way the lever came from the factory..........it was barely making contact with the star wheel tooth notch......or maybe not at all. That's why I had to modify it
about 10 days after I checked my install. I had to modify the levers also 5 years ago with the previous install. I notice the lever design changed too.

I will never stop using anti-seize lubricant on wheel studs. It has always served me well. The only people that would have contact with my lug nuts are the tire stores. And I never let them put a new tire/wheel on the studs.
I had to either drill out or cut off wheel studs on two different occasions after someone else did work. After that, I never let anyone else ever put on lug nuts again, I never had another problem.
 
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It affects the torque on all threaded fasteners. It reduces friction. Therefore, when you apply 85 ft-lbs of torque (just as an example) to the fastener, there is not as much friction to overcome. So the fastener turns further and becomes tighter than it would with clean, dry threads. I've seen recommendations of 20% to 30% less torque needed.
Ditto for putting oil on threads before assembly. Torque should be reduced to account for the oil as well.

Given the problems I've always had with corrosion causing seizure, most fasteners probably should have some sort of antiseize, especially in parts exposed to heat, chemicals such as salt, or weather. I can count on one hand the number of times I really had to use Loctite to prevent loosening. The rest of the time it's been the opposite problem.
 

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I checked thoroughly to make sure I installed the drum brakes correctly. I do the brake pedal thing also while reversing periodically.
The adjuster lever that came with the hardware kit is correct. I checked. But the way the lever came from the factory..........it was barely making contact with the star wheel tooth notch......or maybe not at all. That's why I had to modify it
about 10 days after I checked my install. I had to modify the levers also 5 years ago with the previous install. I notice the lever design changed too.

I will never stop using anti-seize lubricant on wheel studs. It has always served me well. The only people that would have contact with my lug nuts are the tire stores. And I never let them put a new tire/wheel on the studs.
I had to either drill out or cut off wheel studs on two different occasions after someone else did work. After I never let anyone else ever put on lug nuts again, I never had another problem.
I worked at a brake shop for a few years and the lead Mechanic made me clean any stud I found with it on there, I was the Tire/Lathe guy. Sprayed the studs with Brake Kleen and a Rag to wipe with and the lug nuts went to the parts cleaner and got a bath. Thank you for NOT letting the tire guys get that stuff all over their hands, shirts and pants.
 

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Yeah. That's true. It's not fun getting that silvery stuff on ya'. Get covered with that stuff and you look like something out of a Science Fiction TV series.
 

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