Pinion Angle Correction

[bobbywalter]

when they said put a new stabilizer on i told the guy to fawk awph.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

when they said put a new stabilizer on i told the guy to fawk awph.

Most of the ones he had coming in needed a new trackbar and stabilizer IIRC. The bushings were shot in the trackbar and the stabilizer was weak.

 

[bobbywalter]

higher miles then he was seeing....like over 40k???




these were less then 10 k....one was 3 days old with a few hundred....


the idea it needs bushings and stabilizer....i mean a bad run of parts...cant really blame ford...but less then 6 degrees of caster...


no.....wheres my cat just no meme..?

 

[19Walt93]

How many of the death wobble trucks are lifted with huge tires? We never had many wobbling Super Duties, most had either worn track bar bushings, loose parts-ball joints,tierods- for example, or the problem was tires.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

higher miles then he was seeing....like over 40k???




these were less then 10 k....one was 3 days old with a few hundred....


the idea it needs bushings and stabilizer....i mean a bad run of parts...cant really blame ford...but less then 6 degrees of caster...


no.....wheres my cat just no meme..?

I think around 50k. Not new but not high enough for them to be normal wear and tear.

How many of the death wobble trucks are lifted with huge tires? We never had many wobbling Super Duties, most had either worn track bar bushings, loose parts-ball joints,tierods- for example, or the problem was tires.

These were stock. When they went to the new body style they got wobbly.

 

[snoranger]

Almost every one of our SooperDoodies in the fleet has had death wobble. It usually the track bar - either the bushing at the frame or the ball joint at the axle.
We have never once did anything alignment related (other then setting toe with a tape measure.) on any of our 100s of superdoodies.

 

[bobbywalter]

Almost every one of our SooperDoodies in the fleet has had death wobble. It usually the track bar - either the bushing at the frame or the ball joint at the axle.
We have never once did anything alignment related (other then setting toe with a tape measure.) on any of our 100s of superdoodies.

thats good to know....what are they averaging for caster?

 

[snoranger]

thats good to know....what are they averaging for caster?

Whatever it rolled off the assembly line at!!?!??!? When I say we’ve never done anything alignment related ... I mean NEVER. We don’t have an alignment rack, we dont send them out... We replace bad/worn out parts and the problem goes away.
My supervisors boss has been there 22 years and says we have never sent a Ford truck (we only work on the f250s and bigger, it used to be f350s and bigger up until ‘99.) out for an alignment.

 

[bobbywalter]

22 years?


hmm...i am just that lucky? great.



ahh...par for the course...i swear....

i can jump in a barrel full of titties and come up choking on a dik everytime....

 

[19Walt93]

I'm amazed you get away with tape measure alignments, camber causes tire wear and pull,too, and caster affects the on center feel. Maybe the fact that we had a state of the art Hunter system and used it accounted for the small number of wobblers we saw. NH also has state safety inspections so loose front end parts are found and replaced, usually before they get really loose. It sounds like we're talking about a bunch of company trucks that get rode hard and put away wet with minimal maintenance.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I'm amazed you get away with tape measure alignments, camber causes tire wear and pull,too, and caster affects the on center feel. Maybe the fact that we had a state of the art Hunter system and used it accounted for the small number of wobblers we saw. NH also has state safety inspections so loose front end parts are found and replaced, usually before they get really loose. It sounds like we're talking about a bunch of company trucks that get rode hard and put away wet with minimal maintenance.

No, it is a kind of widespread thing with the 17+ trucks in general.

 

[19Walt93]

Must be like the Firestone tires blowing out on Explorers. We sold a huge pile of Explorers for years and saw zero failures, we gave away a mountain of free tires during the recall,though.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Must be like the Firestone tires blowing out on Explorers. We sold a huge pile of Explorers for years and saw zero failures, we gave away a mountain of free tires during the recall,though.

Dad had two sets of Firestones get bubbles in them on their Explorer. Never had one blow but they would have. He had gotten disgusted with them and had switched to Goodyear by the time the recall went down.

 

[19Walt93]

We had several choices of replacement tires we could offer to customers. A lot of them were used to getting 50-60k out of their Firestone ATX's and came back complaining 30,000 miles later when their new Goodyear RTS's were worn out. Even when new, RTS's were helpless in snow. Many opted for MIchelins, some said that their Explorer rode better, more complained that it handled sloppy. The Goodrich all terrains were noisy and had to be rotated frequently to keep them from chopping. Chopping was our term for heel and toe wear-if you look at the tire from the side, the edge of the tread that hits the road first is raised and the edge that leaves the road last is sunken. An extreme case looks like a circular saw blade and sounds like a helicopter on the pavement.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

We had several choices of replacement tires we could offer to customers. A lot of them were used to getting 50-60k out of their Firestone ATX's and came back complaining 30,000 miles later when their new Goodyear RTS's were worn out. Even when new, RTS's were helpless in snow. Many opted for MIchelins, some said that their Explorer rode better, more complained that it handled sloppy. The Goodrich all terrains were noisy and had to be rotated frequently to keep them from chopping. Chopping was our term for heel and toe wear-if you look at the tire from the side, the edge of the tread that hits the road first is raised and the edge that leaves the road last is sunken. An extreme case looks like a circular saw blade and sounds like a helicopter on the pavement.

All four Goodyears dry rotted really weird, tire dealer wouldn’t do anything about it so he ended up going back to firestone which is what the car had when they finally traded it. They rode and held up much better than the first two sets.