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Looking for suggerstions for a set of ford wheels (explorer or ?) that will allow me to fit snow or all weather tires on my '97 XLT Spash


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Hi, 'new member. I have a Stock 2wd '97 Ford Ranger XLT 4.0 with the Splash Suspension and Wheels. 'working up on 280 K miles since new.
I recently moved from the flat lands of California to the Sierras of Nevada and have to figure out how to mount snow or all weather tires on the truck.
The stock tires/wheels on this truck run 235 60 15's The only compaines that make tires for this wheel are Cooper and BF Goodrich and tare 70's muscle car style tires.

Is anyone runnng explorer (or other) wheels on this vintage Ranger that will support a different size wheel? Another solution is that II have seen a general brand tire that's a narrower 215 70 15, but I'm wondering if it will fit my wheels.

Would appreciate hearing from anyone that's been down this portentially snowy road before.

thanks,

(If this is not the right forum for tire questions, please let me know.)
 


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There's a tire/wheel area here but close enough, they'll probably let it slide :)

Welcome by the way!

I'm sure you would be ok going narrower on the stock wheels or taller on the tires, there should be no issue finding 235 75 15 tires that are all weather, will probably be an LT instead of a P rating but should be available in a C rating for a better ride... Those tires should fit on stock wheels and fit in the wheel wells, I've fit them on my '97 without issue.
 

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I moved this to the wheel and tire forum.
 

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EDIT: Just found out from OP's introduction that he might have some more information to add about his truck. I'll let him add it, but I reserve the right to change my suggestions. As of right now I would highly suggest the 16" wheel route that I mentioned below.

As Scott said, you'd be fine running the 215s on the factory wheel. Factory 15" wheels are usually 6" wide and the 215/70R15 are fine on that width. For reference they'll be almost an inch taller and narrower than stock, and you'd have about 1/2" more sidewall. I have no real experience with accumulated snow, but I've heard that a taller skinnier tire is better for it, not that there is much change there.

As he said, you could step up to the 235/75R15 which has a good selection. It's same width and almost 3" taller compared to the stock tire. It'll fill up the wheel well more, but should still fit. You side wall in going to be about an inch and a half bigger than stock.

There's also a 225/70R15 that has a decent selection of all terrains and will land between those two in size.


If it were mine I'd probably jump up to a factory 16" wheel from a Ranger, Mazda B, or Explorer. IMO it carries a few advantages, especially if you're sticking metrric tires and not going to imperial measurement offroad style tires. First is that 16" has a much larger selection of sizes and styles available. Second, and possibly a result of the first, they can actually be cheaper than 15" tires. Third, shorter sidewall can improve handling and stability. Finally, 16" wheels with stock diameter tires just look good on a 2wd Ranger.

I say that, because it's exactly what I did on my 1984 Ranger. Has stock sized 14" wheels on it when I got it. Eventually 14" tires became fairly scarce. I had the 16" wheels from my 99 available so I installed them with appropriately sized tires. I had 15" wheels available too, but 16" tires were more available and at better pricing. Looked, rode, and handled great.

For both 15 and 16 inch diameter wheels, bssically any Ranger or Mazda B wheel would fit about like stock. Same for nearly any Explorer up to 2001 and maybe beyond that. If you find a style you like post up a picture and someone can probably confirm that it fits.
 
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FYI, the tech articles section has some good info both on behind the scenes details (backspacing, wheel width etc) and year/pictures... It's easy to miss and jump straight to the forum.


I pulled up the weather days info just so I could figure out if you really really need dedicated snow tires, and I am gonna suggest against dedicated snow.
"Carson" on your profile is Carson City, right?

My suggestion, just go with all season tires.
4 reasons:
1) space in the garage, you have to deal with a stack of tires always taking up space
2) hassle of changing, you have to swap in the spring and fall each year - quite possibly having to pay if you have a tire shop do that
3) warranty headache, all the tire shops I have experience with (in Colorado) basically just throw away any warranty when you are running 2 sets swapping - they wont keep track of mileage and just say "we can't warranty it cause we have no way to verify the actual mileage"
4) cost - wheels aren't free, you have to buy them somewhere even if they are pretty cheap at the junk yard.... and then they spend 1/3 of their life taking up space not getting use of the money.


Now if you lived in northern Wisconsin I would absolutely say get steelies and studded winter tires sure.

That suggestion also comes with a caveat - local conditions... In Colorado the green hippie folks in Boulder screamed and screamed at the state and convinced them to "use less salt" - so when it snows they put sand (really small gravel - rice size pebbles) down in all but the worst weather and only do salt once or twice a year and that is only in off years (el nino or la nina - I forget which). If Carson uses salt all the time religiously, I would run steelies (the salt eats up nice wheels, not so much steel).

Size wise, if you are looking for more options than 2 vendors... welcome to the club :)
My '90 has stock 14" - and the few options are now more expensive than (smaller profile, still stock ride height) 15 or 16" - hence I am upgrading to 16" when this set wears out.


1010tires has a "Tire Size Calculator" in their Tech section that is a pretty good tool for figuring out options and other things you could do if you change wheel size.

Based off your 235/60x15 in your first post they give suggestions for tires and clearly show how much your speedometer will be off (going to a different size means 99% of the time the speedo and odo are gonna be off).
Here's a comparison of your 235/60x15 versus 4 that are within 2% the same size

Nice thing about their tire size calculator - just 2 more clicks from there you can see how many mfg make(/made) tires in that size.
I picked 215/65x15 because they are a closer size than anything else (1010 tires says 60 different tires are available in that size):

After I picked 2 or 3 different sizes based on what 1010tires has to say, I went to the "real world" and put those sizes in my vendor of choice (discount tire) and picked tires & sizes they really actually have. (Note the /made past tense in the last item - not everything 1010tires says exists STILL exists - some are discontinued).

Discount Tire says there are 22 tires available*:

*"available" is sometimes a lie here - they will list "out of stock" stuff that is never gonna be back in stock or even recently "discontinued" but not removed from the computer yet - so look through how many are really actually available.

Don't forget to pay attention to you wheel width versus the suggested wheel width for various tires - in my example above you would be going from a 235 wide to a 215 wide tire - perfectly fine if your wheel is in the range for both, but an issue if you had really wide wheels (too wide for the 215) got to remember to keep it in mind.
 
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FWIF, a point of comparison, I am changing the size on my daily driver (a GM vehicle) and my Ranger and the family's 2nd Ranger - different reasons on all 3, but needed in all 3 cases - not gonna digress and go too far in that.... Anyhow I picked sizes that had 245, 145, and 59 "available" tires - something that only has 22 available like my example above, I would call a "rare" size and not be interested in doing because it will only get more rare in the next few years in all likelihood.
 

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So did I miss the splash information the first time I read the OP, or did he edit and add it?

I could swear that it wasn't there the first time and that I found out that he had the splash suspension (factory lowered) from his introduction post. Now it's in the first line of the OP and I don't see an edit tag on the post. It was 12:30 AM here, maybe I was just tired and missed it.
 

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I had a set of dedicated winter wheels on steel for a hhr, I kept them when we got rid of the car & ran adapters to use them on my ranger. That ranger was a 2.3/2wd with 14’s originally. the hhr rims/tires were 215/60/16’s. Im not normally a fan of adapters or spacers but this worked & didnt have to buy ranger-bolt pattern 16’s to use them. And the good thing id the positive offset fwd rim was offset by the thickness of the adapter. I was considering trying it out with my escape but cant find those adapters now. I do have a extra set of escape wheels I could swap the tires to. And by the way, with a 2” spacer a escape rim will work on a ranger.
 

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Any 15" or 16" Explorer or Ranger wheel will fit. Also one that people don't think of, Crown Vic police car steelies, the later years were 16".
Either 225/70-15, 235/75-15, or 235/70-16 will be fine.

Mustang and some Jeep wheels will also fit, the bolt pattern is the same but the offset is wrong and you will need spacers.
 

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Thanks all for the recommendations. I appreciate all that was written. 'apologies for not responding sooner. I'll look for 16" and I'll get get all season tires installed. I realized that if there's heavy snow, I won't be driving.

Question, they weren't suggested, but has anyone tried 17 or 18" explorer wheels on a ranger? I can guess that they are too big for the wheel wells or turning the front wheels?
 

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It's not the wheel size, it is the tire size... if you run 14x6 wheels (6 inch wide) or 15x7 or 16x7 or 17x or 18x7 (all 7 inch wide) none of those are gonna rub - cause that is the inner steel/alu part of the wheel+tire. It is the choice of tires that you put on those wheels that can get you into rub territory.

Someone who has had interest in rock crawling or that tire lifted look can tell you about what the max size is you can run, I can't though.
 

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It's not the wheel size, it is the tire size... if you run 14x6 wheels (6 inch wide) or 15x7 or 16x7 or 17x or 18x7 (all 7 inch wide) none of those are gonna rub - cause that is the inner steel/alu part of the wheel+tire. It is the choice of tires that you put on those wheels that can get you into rub territory.

Someone who has had interest in rock crawling or that tire lifted look can tell you about what the max size is you can run, I can't though.

Copy. It's the tire. thanks!
 

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i have 235/75 r 15 on my truck that is a little lower than your splash. michelins

i got some jeep wheels from a tj to put on my ranger. they are 15x8 and correct bolt pattern and offset to use. you can use jeep wheels from wranglers (87-05), cherokees (84-01), comanches (85-91), and grand cherokees (93-98)
 

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Thanks. S-J. Are your 235/75 r 15's on your Stock Ranger wheels, or the 8" jeep's. thanks.
 

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yes sir, on the stock ranger wheels.
 

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