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I have a 1992 Ford Ranger Custom 4x4. I want to raise the truck but don't want a 4" lift. I was thinking more of 1-3. With that being said, I can't find any in this size for my truck. I was wondering if I could instead buy some springs, leaves, and shocks from NAPA as I have a student discount there. With that being said, stock parts would just give me same height. I don't want any spacers in front or rear. Could I just buy suspension components from a vehicle that had larger suspension/lift? If so, what vehicles would work?
 


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You can lift the rear with longer shackles. That’s pretty easy to do.

The front is more complicated. Spacers under the coils or taller coils can be done for an inch or 1.5” lift.a 1” spacer would get you close to 1.5” lift. But I wouldn’t go more than that. It throws the camber off. You will need different camber adjustment bushings to get your alignment back in spec and there’s only so far you can go with that.

if you’re just looking for clearance for bigger tires, a body lift will do the trick. But a body lift doesn’t change ground clearance for off-roading. The larger tires will give you slightly more ground clearance. But remember, to get 1” additional ground clearance, you need a tire 2” bigger in diameter.

In my humble opinion, a 4” suspension lift kit really isn’t much lift. Skyjacker and James Duff are the preferred brands because of their quality and design. Rough Country has a reputation for punching holes in the front differential. A lift kit is an expensive modification. Better to wait j til you can afford to do it right. Then, remember that if you increase tire size, that changes performance and you will want different gear ratios in your differentials to regain performance. It’s a never-ending cycle.

More info in the articles here;
 

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mostly you are going to be stealing the brand names out of these threads... I didn't read all of em for content to see if they had how to's
 

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You can lift the rear with longer shackles. That’s pretty easy to do.

The front is more complicated. Spacers under the coils or taller coils can be done for an inch or 1.5” lift.a 1” spacer would get you close to 1.5” lift. But I wouldn’t go more than that. It throws the camber off. You will need different camber adjustment bushings to get your alignment back in spec and there’s only so far you can go with that.

if you’re just looking for clearance for bigger tires, a body lift will do the trick. But a body lift doesn’t change ground clearance for off-roading. The larger tires will give you slightly more ground clearance. But remember, to get 1” additional ground clearance, you need a tire 2” bigger in diameter.

In my humble opinion, a 4” suspension lift kit really isn’t much lift. Skyjacker and James Duff are the preferred brands because of their quality and design. Rough Country has a reputation for punching holes in the front differential. A lift kit is an expensive modification. Better to wait j til you can afford to do it right. Then, remember that if you increase tire size, that changes performance and you will want different gear ratios in your differentials to regain performance. It’s a never-ending cycle.

More info in the articles here;
I agree that the 4" inch isn't that much. However, if I were to do the skyjacker one I would also use some 32" A/T's. If doing that I feel compelled to swap in a 4.0, M5OD, 8.8 and regear to 4.10 as well. I'm totally fine with this as I have the time and money, just not the parts. I want to do it now as I currently have access to a full automotive shop but only for 6 more months.
 
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I agree that the 4" inch isn't that much. However, if I were to do the skyjacker one I would also use some 32" A/T's. If doing that I feel compelled to swap in a 4.0, M5OD, 8.8 and regear to 4.10 as well. I'm totally fine with this as I have the time and money, just not the parts. I want to do it now as I currently have access to a full automotive shop but only for 6 more months.
Honestly, if you can afford to go full bore, I’d get after parts and get it done. 6 months is enough time, more than enough really with access to a full shop. It’s ambitious, but fully workable in that timeframe. The 4.0 is bolt in, you just have to change the engine harness and computer. A Ranger 8.8” is a bolt-in swap, you just need one. You might want to check that you have a D-35 front.

My Choptop (1989 Bronco II) started in my care as a 2wd. I got a donor 4x4 that had a 2” lift and swapped everything. I figured I’d keep it like that on 31” tires for awhile. That lasted an incredibly short time before I got my hands on 3” coils and axle pivot drops (James Duff). That also lasted a very short time before it got extended arms and a 2” body lift and 33” tires. I made it a few years like that before I got tired of blowing up the D-28, and then it got 5” of suspension lift, new long arms, 35” tires… then because the 2.9 wasn’t happy and I had parts for a 4.0 it got that… I’m pretty happy with it now, but yeah… I’d do it all one shot if I did it over…
 

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I have a 1992 Ford Ranger Custom 4x4. I want to raise the truck but don't want a 4" lift. I was thinking more of 1-3.
If you want something kind of low risk, I have a used lift I'm trying to get rid of. You could get it and cut a coil out to make it a bit lower? I have some smaller lift blocks I could toss in.
Make an offer if you're interested I want to see it go on a truck not a scrap yard.
 

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Honestly, if you can afford to go full bore, I’d get after parts and get it done. 6 months is enough time, more than enough really with access to a full shop. It’s ambitious, but fully workable in that timeframe. The 4.0 is bolt in, you just have to change the engine harness and computer. A Ranger 8.8” is a bolt-in swap, you just need one. You might want to check that you have a D-35 front.

My Choptop (1989 Bronco II) started in my care as a 2wd. I got a donor 4x4 that had a 2” lift and swapped everything. I figured I’d keep it like that on 31” tires for awhile. That lasted an incredibly short time before I got my hands on 3” coils and axle pivot drops (James Duff). That also lasted a very short time before it got extended arms and a 2” body lift and 33” tires. I made it a few years like that before I got tired of blowing up the D-28, and then it got 5” of suspension lift, new long arms, 35” tires… then because the 2.9 wasn’t happy and I had parts for a 4.0 it got that… I’m pretty happy with it now, but yeah… I’d do it all one shot if I did it over…
Would I keep the FM146 or swap in the M5OD?
 

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Would I keep the FM146 or swap in the M5OD?
Do the M5OD. I still have the FM-146 in my Choptop and it’s living a charmed existence, but I think most of what’s keeping it alive is how light the thing is with no top. On flat ground I can kick it out of gear and push it by myself. I wouldn’t trust it in something with a bed that I could really load down.

Also, 4.10 gears would be adequate for 33’s, probably not so much for 35’s in a Ranger. Again, I get away with it in the Choptop, but 4.56 or 4.88 gears would be nicer.

Oh, and if you have a two piece rear driveshaft with a carrier bearing, might as well swap that to the “one piece” later driveshaft (its a slip-joint driveshaft). Should be able to source out of your M5OD donor if it’s the same as yours (short bed/long bed and regular cab/extended cab).
 

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There are lifting shocks available, not for a 4" lift, but will go up to 2.8". The added lift is all travel, and keeps the ride plush. I have a pair on my F150 to level out the front. Rides super nice and so far (60Kmi) no issues at all. I recommend these. Below is their website.

Bilstein Lifting Shock
 

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Ok so here's where I'm at.

Option 1 (Remove Lift Blocks In Rear)
- Skyjacker 4" Lift with Black Max Shocks: $1,628.03
- 32" BFG KO2 Tires: $1,080 (30's more affordable but concerned they will look too small)
- Stock looking wheels from LMC (15x8): $679.80

Concerns: truck can't handle this setup (2.9L V6, FM146, Dana 35, 7.5 LSD and I believe 3.73 gearing (also price)


Option 2 (Remove Lift Blocks )
- Duff Stage 1 3" Lift: $1,074.30
- Rough Country 3" Leafs: $459.95 (or maybe some stock leaves from NAPA)
- 31" Falken A/T3W: $660
- Some cheaper black aftermarket wheels
- Maybe Bilstein shocks (not sure)

Concerns: not sure which shocks to run with this setup


Option 3 (Leave Lift Block)
- Skyjacker 4" Lift: $1,200.39
- Stock 3+1 leaves from NAPA: $441.98 (possibly cheaper as I have technical education student discount)
- Probably same tires and wheels as Option 1
- Maybe just buy Skyjacker 4" coils and different shocks

Concerns: still same concerns as option 1 and possible nose up stance as I think the blocks are about 3.5" also not sure on ride feel


Option 4 (Similar to Option 2)
- 3" Duff Coils: $199.95
- Stock leaf springs
- Probably same tires and wheels as Option 2

Concerns: slight rake will remain and not sure on feel as I will have upgraded shocks and springs but factory leafs



Overall I am mostly concerned with look and performance. I have 2.9, FM146, Dana 35 and 7.5 LSD with I believe 3.73 gearing. Not too much concerned on price, but if I can get good feel and lift for cheap by all means I will choose that instead. Am open to other options or modifications to above options. Option 1 is ideal just don't know if its too much for my truck's capabilities.
 
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31/32 will be livable with 373 gears. at least for a decent time.


the duff would be pretty good with just the aal. but your running the drop bracket with stock length arms which is upgradable later. issue is progressive rate springs.




you being in school...if your welding skills are fair or one of your classmates is really good at welding, modifying your arms may be worth a shot to peace a system together for best results.



superlift had a 3 in coil that was single rate @ 415#. i tried to find it and came up short...the old number was 13202.... that combined with the duff pivots and f150 arms and bracket relocation would be really cost effective.








this over the 150 style is pretty similar..


i dont have any issues with a sawzall/metal shear lift though...
 

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Ok so here's where I'm at.

Option 1 (Remove Lift Blocks In Rear)
- Skyjacker 4" Lift with Black Max Shocks: $1,628.03
- 32" BFG KO2 Tires: $1,080 (30's more affordable but concerned they will look too small)
- Stock looking wheels from LMC (15x8): $679.80

Concerns: truck can't handle this setup (2.9L V6, FM146, Dana 35, 7.5 LSD and I believe 3.73 gearing (also price)


Option 2 (Remove Lift Blocks )
- Duff Stage 1 3" Lift: $1,074.30
- Rough Country 3" Leafs: $459.95 (or maybe some stock leaves from NAPA)
- 31" Falken A/T3W: $660
- Some cheaper black aftermarket wheels
- Maybe Bilstein shocks (not sure)

Concerns: not sure which shocks to run with this setup


Option 3 (Leave Lift Block)
- Skyjacker 4" Lift: $1,200.39
- Stock 3+1 leaves from NAPA: $441.98 (possibly cheaper as I have technical education student discount)
- Probably same tires and wheels as Option 1
- Maybe just buy Skyjacker 4" coils and different shocks

Concerns: still same concerns as option 1 and possible nose up stance as I think the blocks are about 3.5" also not sure on ride feel


Option 4 (Similar to Option 2)
- 3" Duff Coils: $199.95
- Stock leaf springs
- Probably same tires and wheels as Option 2

Concerns: slight rake will remain and not sure on feel as I will have upgraded shocks and springs but factory leafs



Overall I am mostly concerned with look and performance. I have 2.9, FM146, Dana 35 and 7.5 LSD with I believe 3.73 gearing. Not too much concerned on price, but if I can get good feel and lift for cheap by all means I will choose that instead. Am open to other options or modifications to above options. Option 1 is ideal just don't know if its too much for my truck's capabilities.
Ok, so… couple thoughts here…

Option 1 is kind of the ideal, and it really kinda sounds to me what you really want. I’d think hard about heading in that direction. You can make some modifications to the plan to reduce cost now that are resolvable later, like you could run 31x10.5 tires on stock rims. You should be able to fit 32-33” tires later. 31” tires may look a little small on a 4” lift, but not bad. The drivetrain you currently have will tolerate 31” tires. Changing rims and tires later is not a problem at all, but a full mechanic shop will make doing major work a lot easier.

If you can weld or get welding done, it is possible to build a set of extended Radius arms. Quite possibly cheaper than you can buy them. I’ve done it twice now. I’m probably going to do it to a couple other trucks I have. The first set was on my Choptop, I bought a joint and a tube insert for it for each side and some steel. The joint came from Ballistic Fab, one of their Ballistic joints. I built the frame mount, rigged up a transmission crossmember, cut the stock arm to where I could fit some 2x2x0.250” tube in, got it lined up and welded it all together. Added some plate to the back side of the stock arms and it’s been like that for I dunno how many years now. I just got a set welded in place on my 88 Bronco II, I bought an extra piece for that, a sort of frame mount end. I still had to weld it to a plate to bolt it to the frame the way I wanted, but it slightly simplified things for me building it. Definitely do the extended arms one way or another though.

You will need a drop pitman arm.

For the rear if I wasn’t getting actual lift springs I would probably add an extra leaf to a 1750# set of leaf springs and get extended shackles. Or move the frame mounts. I don’t like lift blocks. They give a lever for the axle to bend the springs (axle wrap).

I’d hit up junkyards and see if I could find a 90-97 Ranger or 91-94 Explorer with 4.10 gears. The Ranger you will have to make sure it has a true D-35 (all 4.0 trucks will have that and an 8.8”). Door sticker will tell you the ratio of a stock truck, there’s a chart in the tech archives here on that. Take the rear axle complete, if the driveshaft has the same U-joint size as your driveshaft and the yard will let you, take the yoke so you know you have the correct one, the front you really only need the center chunk, but I’d at least take the axle shafts too for spares. It’s a pretty painless swap really, especially when doing a lift, you’re already halfway there.

I have never bought a lift shock. I just figure out my compressed and extended length plus what ends and look through the charts of what is available through my local parts store and there we are.

Doing engine/transmission swaps is way easier with a lifted truck. Especially without a shop. I usually end up putting a stock truck up on ramps in the front to do an engine swap since I don’t have a shop yet. My Choptop I have tons of room under it to work.
 

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There are lifting shocks available, not for a 4" lift, but will go up to 2.8". The added lift is all travel, and keeps the ride plush. I have a pair on my F150 to level out the front. Rides super nice and so far (60Kmi) no issues at all. I recommend these. Below is their website.

Bilstein Lifting Shock

he has a real axle. his truck wanders down the road like a drunken cow...... you have a Ferrari axle....
 

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I agree, option 1.
Do it once, do it right.

31x10.50R15 tires will look fine on a '92 w/4" lift (especially with them on your stock wheels if they are alloys). The 3.73 gears will suck a bit, but not to the point of being intolerable. Later on (as $$$ permits), you can toss better gears at it (I strongly suggest 4.56:1 with your 2.9L V6, maybe along with a locking differential or two) and get your performance back (and maybe even then some). 4.56 will do well with 32" tires too should you decide to upsize in the future.
 

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I agree, option 1.
Do it once, do it right.

31x10.50R15 tires will look fine on a '92 w/4" lift (especially with them on your stock wheels if they are alloys). The 3.73 gears will suck a bit, but not to the point of being intolerable. Later on (as $$$ permits), you can toss better gears at it (I strongly suggest 4.56:1 with your 2.9L V6, maybe along with a locking differential or two) and get your performance back (and maybe even then some). 4.56 will do well with 32" tires too should you decide to upsize in the future.

i was under the impression the 1600 dollar kit did not come with radius arms...



i would say the skyjacker is top dog for budget, but i do like the duff pivots.

i dont like progressive coils though.




 

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