Keyless key pad code


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So our 11 Ford edge just left my daughter stranded... luckily at home.

The key FOB unlock button quit working and the lock cylinder on the drivers door is frozen or broken and won't unlock the door. I went out with a slim jim and fooled with it until my hands froze... it's 16 degrees today. With the VIN can someone with access to Ford's system retrieve the keypad code?

I know I can get it with both keys and cycling them both in sequence and the code should pop up on the display... but I can't get into the car.

Any help one of you can offer?
 


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You don't use a slim jim in a normal way. Pull the door handle open and go up from under the handle. Nevermind, just saw you said it's an edge. The door handle trick works on rangers. You can open a ranger that way in 5 seconds using the antenna...

You can use a wedge or air bag to open the door at the top slightly to get a rod into the inside to pull the interior handle open. Or to press the interior unlock button.
 

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Yeah...my lock out kit is pretty old... none of the air bag tools. I just called road service... it's part of our insurance plan.

Here is the kicker... I know the code was in the owners manual. But kids thinking they know everything... she seems to think she threw it out. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!

I will have to see if I can get the code using the two key method. Or it seems the factory code is also on the module and I can get it from there.

Only figures it would happen today... the coldest day of the year so far.
 

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So... the tow truck driver was here for about 5 minutes. Used two air bags on the window frame... long rod to bump the lock switch.

I looked for the owners manual... gone. Peaked up under the dash... code was on the module. Key pad works as it should. I will have to address the lock cylinder on a nicer day. Temps on the news said 16... but I looked at my thermometer and it say 8. The wind is also just howling... they don't call it the windy city for nothing.
 

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It is possible the lock is froze and is in dire need of lubrication. One trick that I've used that has worked in the past is to heat the key and insert it into the lock to melt the ice. Sometimes it takes a couple of times before enough of the ice is melted in order to melt all the ice and get the cylinder to rotate. I've run across that more when there has been a really rainy couple of days with a sudden temp drop the next day. Interior heat of the vehicle fully warned up in such instances isn't enough to warm up the cylinder enough to clear itself.
 

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It is possible the lock is froze and is in dire need of lubrication. One trick that I've used that has worked in the past is to heat the key and insert it into the lock to melt the ice. Sometimes it takes a couple of times before enough of the ice is melted in order to melt all the ice and get the cylinder to rotate. I've run across that more when there has been a really rainy couple of days with a sudden temp drop the next day. Interior heat of the vehicle fully warned up in such instances isn't enough to warm up the cylinder enough to clear itself.
Yeah… my first attempt at getting into the car included a propane torch and some lock-ease. That evolved into the failed attempt with the slim jim. Something is wrong/broken/binding in the lock cylinder or latch.

The plan would be to get a new FOB and program it... then when she isn't using it and I have time... dig into it and see whats going on. Hopefully she can get by until the weather gets nicer in the spring.
 

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They seem to always hide the code somewhere inside the vehicle. I remember I bought an explorer and the PO didn't know the code so I googled it and low and behold the code is in the compartment in the back where you fill the washer fluid or something along those lines. Shine a flashlight back there and there it was. Worked like a charm. That is one feature I do miss and like. It's nice to go to a gas station and lock it while it is running.
 

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You can read the code with Forscan on some vehicles. It seems to be hit & miss. I'm pretty sure I read it on my '07 Expedition, but the option didn't even show up for my '04 F-250.
 

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You can read the code with Forscan on some vehicles. It seems to be hit & miss. I'm pretty sure I read it on my '07 Expedition, but the option didn't even show up for my '04 F-250.
I've been looking into scan tools and such. I had a Tech2 and a Candi module assigned to me at GM with the engineering software installed. So I could scan anything GM. The only Fords I worked on were my Rangers... and now with a driveway full of Ford stuff... I need something. I need it probably sooner then later also.
 

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I've been looking into scan tools and such. I had a Tech2 and a Candi module assigned to me at GM with the engineering software installed. So I could scan anything GM. The only Fords I worked on were my Rangers... and now with a driveway full of Ford stuff... I need something. I need it probably sooner then later also.
Definitely look into the Forscan. As long as you have a laptop, you can get into a setup for about 25 bucks.

Forscan is a wonderful tool for newer vehicles. I've used it on my '16 F150 multiple times.

A lot of good info here --> https://www.f150forum.com/f118/forscan-software-enable-disable-features-your-truck-348987/
 

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Not that it matters but I don't lock my driver's door or use E-brake in the winter :)

And use an Organic de-icer on frozen lock, Dirtman knows what that is, as do most GUYS
 

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And use an Organic de-icer on frozen lock, Dirtman knows what that is, as do most GUYS
If alwaysFloORD does that in the -42degree weather he’s having, his application tool might freeze solid and break off.
 

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I've been looking into scan tools and such. I had a Tech2 and a Candi module assigned to me at GM with the engineering software installed. So I could scan anything GM. The only Fords I worked on were my Rangers... and now with a driveway full of Ford stuff... I need something. I need it probably sooner then later also.
If you have 1996+ Fords (or Mazdas) and work on your own rides, you should have Forscan. Period. The only better diagnostic software available (to my knowledge) is Fords IDS and possibly Autoenginuity. Forscan is free. The other two are not. Nor are the multiple "scanners" you can buy that aren't nearly as full featured as Forscan. Most people already have a laptop or a smartphone/tablet, so the only additional cost involved is getting a quality OBDII adapter. I prefer the Scantool.net OBDLink MX or MX+ because they have the ability to read the MS-CAN network that Ford uses. It also reads GMs SW-CAN for those unfortunate souls that own one. You'll need a different software than Forscan though. Most of the "cheap" adapters do not have this ability and if you're diagnosing things connected to the TCM, ABS, GEM and other modules, you simply won't get all of the information you need.

The PC and MAC versions of Forscan are full featured, the Android and iOS versions are understandably scaled down, but still offer a lot of useful information and diagnostics. Oddly enough, though the PC/MAC versions are free to download, the Android and iOS apps cost a few bucks.
 

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I actually have an android tablet that I was hoping to turn into this tool... and probably will.

I know the first order of business is getting the adapter... Then see if I can program keys with the tablet version. If not I guess I will just have to take the laptop to the garage.
 


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