Is diesel still worth it?

[stmitch]

I'd keep the 08 until you have more clarification or conviction about what might happen. Hybrid petrol trucks seem potentially awesome, so if anybody is working on that for the EU market I'd probably want to see what those options looked like before making a purchase decision.

I will say that my experience with diesel emissions standards leads me to believe that they'll only get tighter in coming years. Euro 7 regs will be implemented in 2025 for Light Duty vehicles, so I'd probably hold off until then to see what's available. I'd expect some interesting options to hit the market by then. Diesel, petrol, hybrid, and elecric vehicles will all have to meet the same regs. Frankly, this seems like it will take a fair bit of work and a lot of development money to get diesels elligible (the particulates and ammonia seem like they might be the hardest parts to meet, but I'm not working on that specifically, so could be incorrect).

Here's some Euro 7 info from the EU lawmakers themselves with predictions for the future:

Press corner

Highlights, press releases and speeches

ec.europa.eu

 

[superj]

put a quiet muffler on and dump is above the rear axle and act like an electric car. stick a sticker on the back that says something like i disappear at 88mph to blend in with the other electric cars, ha ha ha

 

[1990RangerinSK]

Ill convert to propane and run a grill cylinder i dont care. Be a cold day in hell before i drive a vaccum cleaner

That would really suck (the vacuum cleaner).

OTOH, when you wash it, you would become the vacuum cleaner.

 

[BiggSherm1988]

I'm definitely keeping the 08 until it rusts apart and dies, and pizza without pineapple is not even worth eating.

once the truck becomes a heaping pile of rust and oil in my driveway, I'll probably just get whatever flying car or vacuum cleaner is available. I'm hoping the EU gets its shit together and rethinks the ban and regulatory nonsense in the next decade a lot of people rely on diesel overhear. the price per liter is around 1.90 euro, I haven't even looked at DEF so I'm sure it's another .50-1.00 per liter on top of that. I do drive a significant amount so the added gas milage will definitely be worth it.

again, pizza deserves pineapple, don't be a scrub.

 

[superj]

pineapple pizza sounds so good right now. and then also having pepperoni and jalapeno as a second slice would be perfect

 

[rusty ol ranger]

pineapple pizza sounds so good right now. and then also having pepperoni and jalapeno as a second slice would be perfect

You guys are weird about pizza.

Pepperoni, bacon, and banana peppers is all ya need.

 

[Blmpkn]

Europe is probably going to be the only place worse than California when it comes to anything ICE in the upcoming years.