I have a 5.0 and harness from 1989 mustang


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older rangers hard to find here with no rust, apparently 2005 rangers didn't have pats,better vehicle for swap?
 


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89 is OBD 1

05 is OBD 2

If you dont have emissions in your state you can make it work but you're instrument cluster probably won't be able to be used. I think 05 has ecu controlled gauges.
 

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Welcome to TRS :)

2004 and up Rangers have HEC instrument cluster which is "married" to the computer
2005 didn't have PATS but still has HEC so you have to swap out cluster and most cab wiring to use a different cluster and computer

And yes, 1989 Mustang would have a 60-wire EEC-IV computer
1995 and up Rangers used a 104-wire EEC-V computer

So wiring wise a 1994 or older Ranger(EEC-IV) would be an easier swap
 

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We have no emissions tests here, so using 94 or older would be easiest. So if I find a good deal on a 2005, use the mustang harness and pcm to run the engine, modify the cluster to take aftermarket gauges or hang gauges under dash,what other systems would be affected? Just curious, to the people who put a 4.6 in a ranger,what did you use to run the engine and other electrical components?
 

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2005 Mustang computer(PCM) will not work without its factory matched HEC cluster

When you get into the mid-2000's it becomes more difficult to match electronics
 

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I can't seem to get my message in the right place.I want to get a 4x2 ranger with std trans, I have a m5od trans from a 1987 f150, a new flywheel and clutch assy, oil filter relocation kit
motor mounts etc. 1994 and older rangers usually have rust, i don't want to do rust repair so thats why I was thinking if a 2005, at least it doesn't have pats
 

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You want a 2003 or earlier Ranger, period

2005 won't work because of the SJB, HEC Cluster and more advanced CAN BUS system, used in 2004 and up Rangers

PATS is not the issue, nor is it a big issue on 1999-2003 Ranger swaps, it can be deleted or new PATS keys added once its installed


If you want to pull out most of the cab wiring then you can use a 2005 body, but I wouldn't since the 2003 body is exactly the same and much easier to do the V8 swap

You CAN do anything, just a heads on the layers of difficulty when you go to 2004 and up Ranger
I would google Ranger V8 swaps, I would imagine someone has done a later model V8 Ranger they would be a good source of any extra issues you are likely to encounter


Just another heads up, the earlier M5R2 has shifter farther forward, so you will need to cut a new hole in the floor and make a custom shift arm to clear the Ranger dash
 
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