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Hurricane Helene


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Did you at least swing by to see if there was still more water in spaas Creek trail than in Spaas Creek creek? It was so perfect/beautiful when we were out there a month ago...
Shoot no. I drug my butt in the house about 12:30. I didn't make it in till 5 am haha. The trash man was setting at the gate. I really can't beleive he waited. He usually gets here right after me at 4. But after 4 days of rain and mud I was ready to get in a hot shower and a warm dry bed. My feet have been waterlogged for days.
 


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Mom and Dad were without power from Sunday until yesterday in the Frankfort KY area. my sister who lives literally 5 minutes from them was not affected... They were able to move most of the freezer stuff to her house and kept the fridge cold with bags of ice. then went over and mooched electricity and WIFI off of my sister lol.

Here in Anderson IN I had a shrub partiallly uprooted by the wind. was thinking of taking them down next year anyways as they were dying out, well this is my notice to do so..

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Back up there a bit Bobby. This is a thread where Jim is asking about forum members affected by the hurricane. So are you referring to my first reply where I responded to that, or my second reply where I sarcastically said that the fire was a cover-up for the next Wuhan virus and not caused by Helene?

Either way, unless that biolab is a member here I don't see how it is relevant to the topic of this thread. Even if the lab was a member the fire was not caused by the hurricane, so not relevant. If a member here was affected by that fire as you said, it would be a result of the fire, not the hurricane, ergo still irrelevant to the thread. Chemical fallout from the fire, still not caused by the hurricane. Don't try to say that the rain was because of the hurricane, this is Georgia, it was going to rain with or without it.

If you want to make a thread ranting over the the biolab for assorted reasons, be my guest. Don't blow up at me for saying it wasn't caused by the hurricane and implying that it is irrelevant to the thread, when both are true.

AYE. fair enough. i am looking and have been to property in Beckley.....and another place near Harlan. and a place near tellico. family just moved into tennesee and eastern Kentucky. i knew about the biolab directly from a family member that lives near there in Ga and the primary concern was the lab fire.....from all of them.

so yeah ....that shit directly affects me and those seeking assistance about which way to go.

i have worked many of the major storms since 1987 and worked in all of these states...and still do.

this storm has greatly affected my life. because i am not moving to where i was intending to.

that biolab certainly has a place in this thread
 

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Like Lil-Blue_Ford, we didn't get much here other than nonstop light rain for a few days in a row. The places that are prone to flooding here, seem to have held out ok since the volume was low enough for the drainage to accommodate the flow. Now that the rain has finally stopped, I do need to take a look at the neighbor's property that is down hill from me to see if their back yard is a swamp or not. I'm hoping the garden I'm putting in place will help alleviate some of that by slowing the water flow from the springs as it runs down hill. I suspect that the partially in ground pool that runs in such a way that it blows a lot of the water drainage is the main cause for their problem but I don't know what the yard was like (never paid attention) before the pool was installed.

I hope those who are having issues get them resolved pretty quickly and get some help. I seems that most got through relatively unscathed. Those who got hammered, I have you in my prayers.
 

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Looking at Google maps around the Tennessee / North Carolina border gives you a quick idea of how messed up that area is. It's saying parts of IS40 is going to be closed until September 2025.

You think about people on the coasts being devastated by hurricanes, not people this far inland.
 

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Looking at Google maps around the Tennessee / North Carolina gives you a quick idea of how messed up that area is. It's saying parts of IS40 is going to be closed until September 2025.

You think about people on the coasts being devastated by hurricanes, not people this far inland.
I agree, that far in land is generally not a location one usually worries about severe hurricane damage.
 

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My in-laws on Estero Idland (Ft Myers Beach Florida) lost power for a day or 2, the first floor of their building flooded, I think they lost another car… but this was nothing compared to the last hurricane that hit them.
 

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You think about people on the coasts being devastated by hurricanes, not people this far inland.
It kind of makes sense in a way. First off, it's not something anyone thinks about so it is not a scenario they think to prepare for.

Second, the costal areas may flood but it's relatively flat so the water can stay more spread out as it runs off. There's not a lot of flat ground in the areas in that map. All that water that came down is channeled into the low areas, the valleys and rivers where most stuff is built. The same amount of water that causes a little flooding on the coast, causes a lot of flooding in the mountains. Of course all of that water in the mountains has to go somewhere, so the costal areas and lowlands aren't through with it yet.
 

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Oh, I understand why it flooded. I've seen what flash floods do in the mountains.
 

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I-40 in eastern TN and western NC lost several big bridges, plus a section of eastbound lanes completely washed away and the river is now occupying that space. The problem is that due to the mountains, there isn't even a good bypass in local roads for most of that area. Heavy interstate traffic will have to detour down to Atlanta or up into Virginia to get around. It's 3-6 hours added to the trip either way. Even the traffic that can use local roads, once they open back up, will add 1-2 hours of travel time to get through that area. That's the area where @Robertmangrum.rm and @SenorNoob joined me at Hurricane Creek and Round Mountain a few months ago.
 

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Oh, I understand why it flooded. I've seen what flash floods do in the mountains.
Wasn't intending to suggest otherwise. Just saying how costal flooding ain't quite the same as in the mountains. Both can be equal amounts of suck though
 

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I just caught up to this thread. I posted about my experience in a different thread. a few thoughts.

If you can’t get there to help, fall on your knees and thank God it wasn’t you, and turn the prayer steam up to overload. It does help.

I almost feel guilty because we knew it was coming here (N Atlanta), and then I talked about how it was kind of a fizzle for us. a lot of rain, and I lost power for most of the day, but that happens regularly here with summer thunderstorms, and winter ice storms. I didn’t realize how hard people just a little bit west of me and north of me got smashed up.

back in the day, I had a company that did emergency response on chemical spills and such. The fire department does that stuff now. I’m still on the list, so I went and babysat and overflowing Creek with my flashy lights so none of the drunks were drowned when they ran into it. that’s the way I joked about it, but north of us there were a few people who were swept away. Fortunately, all survived.

One thought on the bio lab fire. First, they make swimming pool chemicals. A lot of chlorine compounds. There was a little electrical fire on the roof, which caused a sprinkler to go off. The nature of the chemicals underneath is such that they go into a chain reaction. It releases heat, but it’s not really a fire, but it also releases chlorine gas. You can’t fight that fire with water, and Atlanta is not set up to handle that kind of a chemical fire. Decisions were made to let it burn out, which is actually still going on. The big chlorine gas release was only the first day, and after that, the amount of gas being released easily dissipated very close to the facility. On the other hand, if you suited up guys to go in and save the facility, which was already totally destroyed, the gas is so poisonous you put the responders at risk. Again the decision was made to let it burn out. Having been involved in these things in an earlier life, I always chuckle a little bit when the people all around them say “how could they let them build that in this residential area?” The plant was built there when it was open field, now it’s a suburb.

A different thought from my past on the power of mother nature. I got hit in the 98 Dunwoody tornado. The tornado was actually about 10 houses down the road, and I got hit by what’s called “straight wind.” They estimated a 150 to 200 mile an hour wind wind came down as if blown through a blower, creating a giant golf diet that used to be the top floor of my house. Neighbor on one side at $500 in damage, neighbor on the other side at $5000 in damage. Guy behind me had $10,000, and the guy across the street had $30,000. Our claim was almost a half million dollars. Mother nature is amazing, but nowhere as evil as State Farm when they were handling the claim.

I don’t mean any of this to be “woe is me,” but rather to share the experience a little bit. For the people west and north of me they were devastated, it’s always in the news for a few days, but it took me almost 2 years to get back into my house. That was 1998, and there’s stuff that still not done. And operating with absolutely nothing, and these people don’t even have roads and phone coverage. They need everything. I already wrote a check to the Red Cross, I’m old and feeble, but I’m trying to organize some neighbors shipping some stuff up that way, mostly working with my church. If all you have is a pack of gum and a postage stamp, they need it. You can send it blind, care of the post office, at that zip code. Pots and pans, good used clothes, canned foods, anything you haven’t thrown away, but you don’t really need will be like gold to them at this moment.

Finally, when I got hit, there were policeman on the street that night guarding the wreckage against looting, the fire department was here constantly for several days, FEMA was here, the Georgia emergency management was here, etc., Etc., The Red Cross set up Food trucks All free That night and the next day and for weeks thereafter.

Where the F is FEMA, Biden, Kamala, the military (at the direction of Biden), etc. etc. We can airlift an Abrams tank halfway across the world in 16 or 18 hours. Why are these people running out of food and water? Trump showed up with food, water, and tankers of gasoline (below Macon), he’s still working, and he’s not even in charge, and he’s organizing more.

Did I mention pray if you can’t do anything else?

My 2 cents, hope it helps
 

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I'm not gonna let this thread go political... so let's just get that in check.

That said... these people are really hurting. They needed help days ago and whatever has found its way there is not nearly enough.

We made two donations... Red Cross through Fox News and another to Samaritans Purse. I may also do a little more through Trumps GoFundMe page.

If I were younger... I'd likely travel to help in anyway i could.

Prayers to all that have been affected.
 

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I/we have been talking to the sheriffs down here, and some sheriffs up in North Carolina on what we can do without interfering with bigger efforts. Access has opened up enough now, so we are sending two service trucks with two men apiece from NJ, loaded with tools and mostly electrical supplies, but also some plumbing and hardware stuff. Our target will be fixing stuff that isn’t damaged that badly, we can’t tackle power poles, and such. These guys will be set up with food and camping gear so they don’t burden other relief efforts. We’re committing them for three weeks.

And @Uncle Gump won’t like this….

Gumps edit... you're right @Rick W

I didn't like it... so i edited it out.

Just keep this about the great work you're doing and leave the politics out of it like @Jim Oaks has tasked his staff to do.

EDIT: our trucks and our men, but we’re getting financial assistance from some friends we work with.
 
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Helping those in need show us at our best, as human beings.

Please keep the politics off of TRS; we're mainly here for our trucks, and the comradeship. It's sad and unfortunate, but politics has become extremely poisonous these days, designed by intent to keep us from being the kind, respectful friends and neighbors that we usually, and truly are.

Thank you @Rick W , and thank you @Uncle Gump. And especially thank you @Jim Oaks for creating the best truck enthusiast website on the planet.

When it's all said and done, we are still brothers, and sisters.

Prayers for those, who have lost so much.
 

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