• Welcome Visitor! Please take a few seconds and Register for our forum. Even if you don't want to post, you can still 'Like' and react to posts.

how to install valve lifters on 2.9l without tearing the whole thing apart

stamina

Active Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2021
Messages
174
Reaction score
25
Points
28
Location
Wilmington, NC
Vehicle Year
1990
Make / Model
Ford Ranger
Engine Type
4.0 V6
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
3” suspension
Tire Size
265/75/r16
My credo
i come here to ask questions about the Bonnie’s quirks
how do i install brand new valve lifters on a 2.9 v6 without tearing the whole thing apart. she’s ticking like all hell. i saw a video where a guy removed the valve cover, then rocker arms, then pushrods and used a grabber type tool to pull the lifters out? is this possible on the 2.9 or could i use a strong magnet grabber? any tips and all information is appreciated
 


Rock Auto 5% Discount Code: BD8D9A3814E19D Expires July 5th, 2022

bobbywalter

TRS Technical Staff
V8 Engine Swap
TRS Technical Advisor
TRS Banner 2012-2015
TRS 20th Anniversary
TRS Event Participant
Joined
Aug 9, 2007
Messages
22,145
Reaction score
2,664
Points
113
Location
woodhaven mi
Vehicle Year
1988
Make / Model
FORD mostly
Engine Type
V8
Engine Size
BIGGER
Transmission
Automatic
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
sawzall?
Tire Size
33-44
My credo
it is easier to fix and understand than "her"
Take the heads off.
 

tw205

Bronco II Rancher.
Supporting Member
U.S. Military - Veteran
Joined
Jan 23, 2011
Messages
388
Reaction score
345
Points
63
Location
Bronson Michigan
Vehicle Year
1985
Make / Model
Ford Bronco II
Engine Type
2.8 V6
Engine Size
2.8
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
6” skyjacker 2” body
Tire Size
33x12.5
I believe the 2.9 is like the 2.8 in that the head prevents the lifters from being removed without removing the head. Replacing the lifters may not solve your issue. Have you used an aftermarket oil gauge to get a pressure reading. Don’t trust factory gauge or idiot light as their accuracy is severely disappointing. New lifters with low oil pressure will tick same as the old.
 

rusty ol ranger

2.9L Mafia-Don
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 22, 2007
Messages
8,832
Reaction score
3,530
Points
113
Location
Michigan
Vehicle Year
1987
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Type
2.9 V6
Engine Size
177 CID
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
2WD
My credo
A legend to the old man, a hero to the child...
May not even be a pressure problem as much as a supply problem. Passages to the top end can get gummed up.
 

stamina

Active Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2021
Messages
174
Reaction score
25
Points
28
Location
Wilmington, NC
Vehicle Year
1990
Make / Model
Ford Ranger
Engine Type
4.0 V6
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
3” suspension
Tire Size
265/75/r16
My credo
i come here to ask questions about the Bonnie’s quirks
Take the heads off.
how difficult is removing the heads with the motor still in the truck? i really don’t have a means of getting it out of the vehicle
 

rumblecloud

Well-Known Member
Supporting Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2020
Messages
879
Reaction score
525
Points
93
Location
48022
Vehicle Year
1994
Make / Model
Ranger Splash
Engine Type
4.0 V6
Transmission
Automatic
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
1-1/2 inch front leveling
Total Drop
Stock
Tire Size
P235/75R15
My credo
What's the worst that could happen?
I pulled mine off of a '94 4.0 and I have never done anything that extensive before. So it can be done. Is it easy? Meh...mine, not so much as the left side head bolts were corroded to the point of having to grind them off. Depends on the condition of the attaching parts and your definition of easy.
 

Blmpkn

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2020
Messages
2,702
Reaction score
2,183
Points
113
Location
Southern maine
Vehicle Year
2021
Make / Model
Ford ranger
Engine Type
2.3 EcoBoost
Engine Size
2.3
Transmission
Automatic
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
2.5" level
Tire Size
255/75/17
Kinda way overkill to pull a motor just to replace lifters anyways.
 

rusty ol ranger

2.9L Mafia-Don
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 22, 2007
Messages
8,832
Reaction score
3,530
Points
113
Location
Michigan
Vehicle Year
1987
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Type
2.9 V6
Engine Size
177 CID
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
2WD
My credo
A legend to the old man, a hero to the child...
how difficult is removing the heads with the motor still in the truck? i really don’t have a means of getting it out of the vehicle
Not hard....its very doable. But plan on having to drill out a few exhaust studs that snap off in the head,
 

rumblecloud

Well-Known Member
Supporting Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2020
Messages
879
Reaction score
525
Points
93
Location
48022
Vehicle Year
1994
Make / Model
Ranger Splash
Engine Type
4.0 V6
Transmission
Automatic
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
1-1/2 inch front leveling
Total Drop
Stock
Tire Size
P235/75R15
My credo
What's the worst that could happen?
Ohhhh...forgot about that 😬
 

PetroleumJunkie412

2.9 Mafia
TRS 20th Anniversary
Joined
Oct 31, 2018
Messages
7,304
Reaction score
5,705
Points
113
Location
Dirtman's Basement
Vehicle Year
1988
Make / Model
Ranger
Engine Size
2.9l Trinity
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
4WD
My credo
Give 'yer balls a tug. Fight me.
Odds are, it's not just lifters. I thought I had lifter noise... nope. Cam had worn over 1/4 inch on some lobes.
 

tw205

Bronco II Rancher.
Supporting Member
U.S. Military - Veteran
Joined
Jan 23, 2011
Messages
388
Reaction score
345
Points
63
Location
Bronson Michigan
Vehicle Year
1985
Make / Model
Ford Bronco II
Engine Type
2.8 V6
Engine Size
2.8
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
6” skyjacker 2” body
Tire Size
33x12.5
It’s a simple enough job but the difficulty comes in with age and rust. If the peripheral parts, especially exhaust haven’t been off recently it’s not gonna come off without a fight.
Before you dive in I would try a little more diagnostic work. R&R the heads to replace lifters with no oil pressure isn’t gonna fix your tick. First I’d clean the engine internals with whatever product (like seafoam) you feel comfortable with to try and clean out some sludge. Fresh 10w40 with a quart of Lucas oil treatment and a Motorcraft filter. Price a cheap oil gauge. It’s worth the coin.
These engines have a poor oil design for the top end. Worn cam bearings will cause loss of pressure in the top end and excessive ticking. If the cam bearings are bad your new lifters will still tick. My first move would be to see if there is any oil pressure.
Keep us updated on your decisions and progress.
 

Angie

Well-Known Member
V8 Engine Swap
Joined
May 18, 2008
Messages
1,312
Reaction score
203
Points
63
Location
Vancouver area BC Canada
Vehicle Year
92 & 83 project
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Type
V8
Engine Size
4.0L 302
Transmission
Automatic
no idea if this will help you or not. but i did a small write up on changing head gaskets last fall....

cheers

 

stamina

Active Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2021
Messages
174
Reaction score
25
Points
28
Location
Wilmington, NC
Vehicle Year
1990
Make / Model
Ford Ranger
Engine Type
4.0 V6
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
3” suspension
Tire Size
265/75/r16
My credo
i come here to ask questions about the Bonnie’s quirks
It’s a simple enough job but the difficulty comes in with age and rust. If the peripheral parts, especially exhaust haven’t been off recently it’s not gonna come off without a fight.
Before you dive in I would try a little more diagnostic work. R&R the heads to replace lifters with no oil pressure isn’t gonna fix your tick. First I’d clean the engine internals with whatever product (like seafoam) you feel comfortable with to try and clean out some sludge. Fresh 10w40 with a quart of Lucas oil treatment and a Motorcraft filter. Price a cheap oil gauge. It’s worth the coin.
These engines have a poor oil design for the top end. Worn cam bearings will cause loss of pressure in the top end and excessive ticking. If the cam bearings are bad your new lifters will still tick. My first move would be to see if there is any oil pressure.
Keep us updated on your decisions and progress.
how do i install oil pressure gauge for top end?
 

tw205

Bronco II Rancher.
Supporting Member
U.S. Military - Veteran
Joined
Jan 23, 2011
Messages
388
Reaction score
345
Points
63
Location
Bronson Michigan
Vehicle Year
1985
Make / Model
Ford Bronco II
Engine Type
2.8 V6
Engine Size
2.8
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
6” skyjacker 2” body
Tire Size
33x12.5
An oil pressure gauge will monitor pressure for the whole system. There is a sensor on the engine now that does that but it is notoriously inaccurate. A new gauge will come with everything you need and instructions to install it. It is very simple. You will remove the old sensor and install new piece that runs an oil line from the engine to the cab where you will connect it to a gauge that measures the pressure. Anybody here can give advice help but you will see it’s a very simple job.
 

stamina

Active Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2021
Messages
174
Reaction score
25
Points
28
Location
Wilmington, NC
Vehicle Year
1990
Make / Model
Ford Ranger
Engine Type
4.0 V6
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
3” suspension
Tire Size
265/75/r16
My credo
i come here to ask questions about the Bonnie’s quirks
An oil pressure gauge will monitor pressure for the whole system. There is a sensor on the engine now that does that but it is notoriously inaccurate. A new gauge will come with everything you need and instructions to install it. It is very simple. You will remove the old sensor and install new piece that runs an oil line from the engine to the cab where you will connect it to a gauge that measures the pressure. Anybody here can give advice help but you will see it’s a very simple job.
gotchu, i thought you meant i would have to do it on the top end, i know where that sensor thread is and i will do that soon and report back
 

Sponsored Ad


Sponsored Ad

Top