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Hey looking for some info. My kid just bought a 93 ranger 4x4 and the camber is way off. Tires are wearing on the extreme outside tread and inside tread is brand new. It looks like it may have been lifted a bit but I'm not a Ford guy (sorry) and this is the first ranger I've looked at
. Can anyone tell me what the stock spring height should be so I can tell if previous owners but bigger springs in?
 


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I know @Jim Oaks was collecting installed coil spring heights from members to create a Tech Article on this very subject. I didn't see a finished article in the Tech Library tough. But here is a link the thread and it may help you find your answer...

 

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Thanks I'll check it out
 

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Taking a few good pictures of it and posting them here might help us figure out what you have. Also check out our technical articles (How To Tech link). There are some great articles there with photos that explain the TTB (twin traction beam) front axle assembly and how it all works together.

 

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After checking tire pressure and for loose parts the first step in an alignment is to check ride height. It certainly sounds like you need one.
 

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Thanks guys, I've been reading all the camber and alignment threads I can find. Once I get a chance to measure the springs to see if it's actually lifted or not, I'll have an idea where to start. Funny thing is he says it drives dead straight.
 

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Till it unloads.


93 should be able to use the 3+ degree adjustable camber bushings if it comes to that.


Very hard to find guys that can set these up. There is allot to it.
 

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You may only need to toe it out a 1/4 turn on each side to get it perfect....or you may need camber bushings and ra bushings...and pivot drops....and and and.
 

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Thanks guys, I've been reading all the camber and alignment threads I can find. Once I get a chance to measure the springs to see if it's actually lifted or not, I'll have an idea where to start. Funny thing is he says it drives dead straight.
Just posting a pic would probably show if it's lifted.
:worthless:
 

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Thanks guys, I've been reading all the camber and alignment threads I can find. Once I get a chance to measure the springs to see if it's actually lifted or not, I'll have an idea where to start. Funny thing is he says it drives dead straight.
Some guys would let go of the steering wheel and judge the alignment based on the vehicle going straight. That doesn't mean the alignment is correct, it could be just equally out of spec from side to side. Find a real shop that does alignment, not a tire store or a franchise like Midas, and get it checked so you know what you're up against.
 

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I've never had an RBV with any sort of lift that didn't need bushings of some sort. My Explorer was the worst one, I think they put 2.5* bushings in both sides, largest available I'm told. That was all stock parts too (high rider lift though.)

My ex stepside truck was really bad the other direction, extreme positive camber on one side and I can't tell why. No lift, all stock parts, nothing damaged, looked like it had been like that for a long, long time too. Usually I see sagged out springs and then the wheel bearings take a shit and they go way negative.

Have not had good luck with adjustable bushings, fwiw... They have spun around and ripped the teeth off multiple times and they are a one time use item, they lock together once you tighten everything down.
 

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I've never had an RBV with any sort of lift that didn't need bushings of some sort. My Explorer was the worst one, I think they put 2.5* bushings in both sides, largest available I'm told. That was all stock parts too (high rider lift though.)

My ex stepside truck was really bad the other direction, extreme positive camber on one side and I can't tell why. No lift, all stock parts, nothing damaged, looked like it had been like that for a long, long time too. Usually I see sagged out springs and then the wheel bearings take a shit and they go way negative.

Have not had good luck with adjustable bushings, fwiw... They have spun around and ripped the teeth off multiple times and they are a one time use item, they lock together once you tighten everything down.


I have the best results with the 3 plus adjustable. K80109
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Those are rated to 4 deg....so matching caster is easier. No issues with them once set and I destroyed more beams and bending radius arms then I care to remember.


There is no telling where you will find somebody that can proficiently work on these tib/ttb setups.


So I wouldn't limit where to look.

Stock systems the average tech can often go by the numbers.....

but modified ride height takes trial and error...so a lot of experience.
 

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Thanks for all the input everyone. Having a hard time getting the kid to let me look at it. New to him truck and all he is out beating it up 24/7. I did manage to take a quick look and it is "lifted" a 2" or so rubber block under stock springs. Definitely not a proper job looks like stock everything else. I'll take a pic the next time I catch him at home.
 

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Needs highrider or Cherokee shocks then if he is jumping the railroad tracks with it.


Probably just leave it if it ain't eating the tires off in 10k.
 

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