Camber Eccentric #'s

[Fast Eddie]

I did. They seem round but don't bump up against anything to hold their ground?

I saw the ones with the harder edges and these are not those. Their round/oblong and just sitting there on each side of the bushing.

I'm not real sure what a two piece upper control arm looks like. Never saw one. The truck's passenger upper control arm 'appears' one piece from the frame mounts to the upper ball joint.

It's a 2x4 Edge. This forum identified the 4x4 chassis. Anything you can throw out there regarding very slight upgrades is good information. I plan to do what I can myself, save a roadblock and front end alignment.

Glad I found this place.

 

[sgtsandman]

A word of caution. This site, and others, do a pretty good job of sorting things out providing good information but it can be wrong from time to time.

Not necessarily examples of this site but State Farm was convinced my plain jane 1998 XLT Ranger was a Splash and I think the Ford site had my 2019 STX FX4 listed as a Lariat using the VIN. I know for a fact that neither are either of those trim levels.

 

[Fast Eddie]

It was done a different way and thank you for that info. Back there somewhere in the myriad of posts, someone identified my chassis as a 4x4 based on torsion bars and no front springs. It sits high from the factory. I haven't touched a thing. I'm freshening things up during some downtime. Appreciate the help out here.

 

[Fast Eddie]

Just an update for anyone who may be following. Liquid Wrenched everything. Camber shims were square. New kit installed with ease. Shocks another story. No dice. 91k miles and they rusted beyond belief. My bad for not noticing earlier. Resorted to a grinder/cutter. Couldn't get all the way through before the upper shock mount narrowed and the grinder couldn't go any further. Stopped, check the bolts on the lower control arm. Tried to break them loose with a 18" breaker bar and simply rounded off the bolt heads. Supposedly 'Blast' works well as does carburetor cleaner. Taking it to a shop tomorrow. They may have to torch them off. Geez.

 

[Fast Eddie]

Installed the camber kit. Shocks had to be torched off so took it to a shop. Not bad for 91k and not unexpected

Installed the Bilsteins and had it aligned. Pulls slowly to the right. Had a prior camber issue wearing the pass front tire and pull seems worse after alignment.

Any ideas? I have some of my own and want to bounce that up against your opinions before I take it back to the shop. No computer printouts from alignment but it was computerized. Saw the name and can only remember 'Wizard'.

 

[Fast Eddie]

Quick update: Camber kit installed, lobes up.

Shop installed shocks and alignment Dude aligned front end and said it was my tires. They're in rough shape. Ranger is towed in cross-country travel. I rode them out until I could land in basecamp.

Ordered a new set from tire rack and getting those installed tomorrow. Assume, for a moment, he did a good job and the truck pulls to the right. If in the right lane, I'm off the road in 300-400 ft. Taking the crown into account, moving into the left lane (4-lane highway) and she still pulls right. The only thing that makes sense is the tire is so bad it caused a stagger I can't measure with what I have on hand but the bad tire is now on the left and not on the right.

Does any of that make sense to you? His alignment machine doesn't produce a computer printout.

 

[Fast Eddie]

Wanted to circle back and thank those who replied by closing the loop.

The stock camber adjustment is not there. You have to order new shims and hope the rest is not too worn to make that time, money and effort worthwhile. Get the kit.

It wasn't the tires. They re-aligned and it drives like a dream. Here's the way it went:

1) Installed camber kit - owner
2) Old shocks rusted, torched off and replaced - garage
3) 4-wheel alignment - garage
4) Pulled to the right
5) installed new tires - tire shop/owner (garage could do, spread it out)
6) re-aligned - garage

Bottom line: drives like a dream.

I'm in love again (lol)

 

[1.slow.pitt.ranger]

So the camber bolts dowork on the I beam trucks too??? I’m planning on lowering and don’t want to have too much camber in the front to where it looks like a FD drift car....anything on this is appreciated

 

[Fast Eddie]

Don't mean to cloud the thread with an 'I don't know'. However, the ones I used manipulated the upper a-arm. Last time I saw an I-beam was on a 62 flair side and don't remember seeing upper a-arms. I'd question whether they would work. I'd snap pics of mine but it's raining cats and dogs right now and supposed to all day.

 

[1.slow.pitt.ranger]

well i have a 2wd ranger and it has the i beams. I wanted to lower my truck with springs and i know that when you do that it makes the wheels camber in and the only way to lower without all the camber is to buy dream beams which are 400 alone with out the flip kit so i just wanted to know if the camber bolts even worked with the I beam rangers.

 

[MikeG]

There are camber bushings in i-beams; there are camber bushings in just about everything. But.... there are limits to how much adjustment you can get out of them. I suspect it won't take much lowering before camber bushings just aren't enough. Gotta balance the other measurements, too.

There's a reason people are willing to shell out that kind of money for reworked beams, it seems.

 

[1.slow.pitt.ranger]

Yea I figured it won’t take much but I won’t mind a tiny bit of camber. Anyways thanks on the info I just looked at rockauto and I found some on there. Honestly I don’t know why you’d want to pay that kind of money for a 3 inch drop

 

[MikeG]

I put 2 inch coil spacers to lift the front and I was told, at the time, that a 3 degree camber bushing would get it back to aligned. They didn't have one in stock so I told them to get it as close as they could, and it's been OK. A little cupping on the inside of the front tires. I just rotate them every oil change, and sometimes have to have them flipped on the rims. Anyway based on that.... and going 3 inches the other way, would just hazard a guess that 4 degree bushings might get you close. But I don't work on suspensions for a living so there may be some other things I'm not aware of. Just a random thought. Not sure if lifting uses the same bushings as lowering.

 

[1.slow.pitt.ranger]

Okay thanks for the info I’ll post my results once everything gets done.