California on fire...

[Jim Oaks]

I think doing a DOT inspection on a firetruck that just drove from Idaho to California for a fire emergency is stupid. Way to much government regulation. A state of emergency should allow these rules to be bypassed to get the help they need. If Cal Fire is so concerned about fire truck maintenance they should have fixed the 100 fire trucks LA has out of service instead of needing other states to send theirs to save them.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

LA Wildfires: Out-of-state fire trucks did get inspected. But not for emissions tests

Kinda reminds me of a tractor ride. The tenderheart that never misses a beat at home can get in a bad mood when ran for hours at high speed.

Odd issues that personally have cropped up on tractor rides on "sound" tractors
Blown manifold gaskets
Front main seal
Hydraulic valve stuck (couldn't let the three point down once I got there)
Glazed points
Precleaner break and shut off air to the engine.
Pretty sure I killed a rear tire last summer
Stuck in road gear

 

[ekrampitzjr]

I think the concern with California's inspections of out-of-state fire trucks was the possibility of a truck becoming disabled and either blocking a key road or being unable to leave an area to escape the fire.

 

[Bill]

DOT only does vehicle inspections on heavy duty commercial vehicles that require permits to move through California. Fire trucks are explicitly exempt.

Fire Truck Exemptions | Caltrans

State of California

dot.ca.gov

Calfire did the inspections to make sure the trucks aren't going to break down in the middle of a fire and potentially create a very bad situation. And, to make sure the firefighters have the equipment they need. Calfire is also a separate organization and has no oversight of local and municipal fire departments. Calfire has no information on how many fire trucks any given fire department has out of commission. In this case, the fire trucks that needs repairs are the sole responsibility of the LA fire department, which has 89 of them in need of repair. Not hundreds of them as claimed. But, 89 is still too many and the local media in LA is all over that issue.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

I use Kingsford...

"Taste the meat, not the heat"

-Hank Hill

 

[rusty ol ranger]

LA Wildfires: Out-of-state fire trucks did get inspected. But not for emissions tests

Kinda reminds me of a tractor ride. The tenderheart that never misses a beat at home can get in a bad mood when ran for hours at high speed.

Odd issues that personally have cropped up on tractor rides on "sound" tractors
Blown manifold gaskets
Front main seal
Hydraulic valve stuck (couldn't let the three point down once I got there)
Glazed points
Precleaner break and shut off air to the engine.
Pretty sure I killed a rear tire last summer
Stuck in road gear

I did read california killed the bill mandating only electric semis could run there starting in 2036.

Maybe there is hope for them. Guessing they realized that a bunch of power wheel trucks wernt going to cut it during future rebuilding efforts.

 

[sgtsandman]

I did read california killed the bill mandating only electric semis could run there starting in 2036.

Maybe there is hope for them. Guessing they realized that a bunch of power wheel trucks wernt going to cut it during future rebuilding efforts.

I had read somewhere that they were having a lot of problems with all electric fire trucks during this whole thing. It was only a blurb in one place about it. So, I'm not sure about the veracity of the post. I'm inclined to believe it but I'm willing to give the whole subject the benefit of the doubt until I can see more info on the matter.

 

[Curious Hound]

 

[CrabGuy]

....Then they will give each other awards.
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Don't forget punishment of the non participants and promotions for the guilty parties

 

[Bill]

Here's a video of Mailbu after the fire.

This is what it looked like before the fire.

Street View of Duke's Malibu · Google Maps

21150 Pacific Coast Hwy, Malibu, CA 90265

maps.app.goo.gl

 

[Rick W]

I had read somewhere that they were having a lot of problems with all electric fire trucks during this whole thing. It was only a blurb in one place about it. So, I'm not sure about the veracity of the post. I'm inclined to believe it but I'm willing to give the whole subject the benefit of the doubt until I can see more info on the matter.

I’m sure it’s just as logical and serviceable and reliable as an all electric F-16 jet

 

[Bill]

I had read somewhere that they were having a lot of problems with all electric fire trucks during this whole thing. It was only a blurb in one place about it. So, I'm not sure about the veracity of the post. I'm inclined to believe it but I'm willing to give the whole subject the benefit of the doubt until I can see more info on the matter.

There really aren't many around. LA bought the first one in the US in 2022. As far as functionality for their purpose, they work fine, but have a limitiation around two hours. I think there was a problem with a leak in the fittings or the water tank, but that isn't a plumping issue. Not an electric issue. The intent of that trucks was for smaller fires, like single family homes. I don't know if LA bought any additional electric trucks. I think I heard they had five on a news report. I tried doing a search and could only come up with the one truck they bought it 2022. One of the fake news disinformation propagands sites stated they had 19 of them. That's a lot of fire trucks to purchase of any kind in three years and that website is a Breitbart and Alex Jones level of journalism, so until I see some more authoritative source, I'm going to say I don't know, but they have at least one.

Their biggest problems are runtime, cost, and it appears it takes two years from time of order to delivery. And, I'm going to make a guess that driving a lithium battery that size into the inferno in Pacific Palisades may not be a good idea because the battery would probably burn a hole in the ground if it caught fire. But then, I really don't know much about electric fire trucks, so maybe there's some kind of safety something they have to prevent that.

 

[snoranger]

There really aren't many around. LA bought the first one in the US in 2022. As far as functionality for their purpose, they work fine, but have a limitiation around two hours. I think there was a problem with a leak in the fittings or the water tank, but that isn't a plumping issue. Not an electric issue. The intent of that trucks was for smaller fires, like single family homes. I don't know if LA bought any additional electric trucks. I think I heard they had five on a news report. I tried doing a search and could only come up with the one truck they bought it 2022. One of the fake news disinformation propagands sites stated they had 19 of them. That's a lot of fire trucks to purchase of any kind in three years and that website is a Breitbart and Alex Jones level of journalism, so until I see some more authoritative source, I'm going to say I don't know, but they have at least one.

Their biggest problems are runtime, cost, and it appears it takes two years from time of order to delivery. And, I'm going to make a guess that driving a lithium battery that size into the inferno in Pacific Palisades may not be a good idea because the battery would probably burn a hole in the ground if it caught fire. But then, I really don't know much about electric fire trucks, so maybe there's some kind of safety something they have to prevent that.

It takes us on average 2 years from the day the PO is issued until the day we get a truck delivered. This is for any truck that has to be built… tri-axle dump trucks, f550 service trucks, etc. That’s just the amount of time it takes, it’s not an electric truck thing.

 

[sgtsandman]

There really aren't many around. LA bought the first one in the US in 2022. As far as functionality for their purpose, they work fine, but have a limitiation around two hours. I think there was a problem with a leak in the fittings or the water tank, but that isn't a plumping issue. Not an electric issue. The intent of that trucks was for smaller fires, like single family homes. I don't know if LA bought any additional electric trucks. I think I heard they had five on a news report. I tried doing a search and could only come up with the one truck they bought it 2022. One of the fake news disinformation propagands sites stated they had 19 of them. That's a lot of fire trucks to purchase of any kind in three years and that website is a Breitbart and Alex Jones level of journalism, so until I see some more authoritative source, I'm going to say I don't know, but they have at least one.

Their biggest problems are runtime, cost, and it appears it takes two years from time of order to delivery. And, I'm going to make a guess that driving a lithium battery that size into the inferno in Pacific Palisades may not be a good idea because the battery would probably burn a hole in the ground if it caught fire. But then, I really don't know much about electric fire trucks, so maybe there's some kind of safety something they have to prevent that.

Which is why I'm keeping an open mind on them. Like I said it was one blurb without any kind of context. They might be right or it was just someone creating content to stir the pot. I just don't know. It might be perfectly fine for what it was built for. A huge, raging inferno causing thousands of acres of destruction is out of the realm of considered operational parameters for most fire fighting equipment I would imagine.

 

[Bill]

If you all wanna really know what's with the fires in this state, go to YouTube and type in Carl demaio reform California

I'm kind of neutral on Carl. Not because I don't like him, but because I think he speaks before doing his research. He keeps repeating this issue of making California adopt stricter building codes for rebuilding. That was done about five years ago. Anything rebuilt in those areas will have to meet California's newer building codes for fire resistance.