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Nice... I am spraying mine in my garage too and there's definitely some dust/debris in it but not super awful. The hood was really bad but I think it's mostly in the clear coat and will polish out. I may try single stage on my next paint job.
 


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Yeah having a paint booth would be nice! I did build a dust collector out of an old swamp cooler and it actually worked really well.

If it's just in the clear then yeah you should be able to polish it out. Single stage is really nice and easy, and the urethane is really durable. (y)
 

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Dust collector. It's an old swamp cooler. I cut out the sides and added some 20x25 filters.

It pulls the air in through the sides and out the bottom, so it'll kick up any dust on the floor and suck it right back into the filters. Wheeling it around my garage will clean suck up most of the dust in 10 min or so.

 

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I've got a couple paint booths at work. It's not all fun and games to take care of.

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the cheap masking tape is a nice touch.
 

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the cheap masking tape is a nice touch.
We go through miles of masking tape. The smaller covers near the applicators (sprayers) get replaced 2-3 times per shift. The larger robot covers are replaced weekly. Cleaning is a big part of the production operator's jobs. If we go in the booth to work on a robot, the covers have to be untaped and moved, then put back or replaced and retaped when we finish. That cheap tape does the job fine.
 

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We go through miles of masking tape. The smaller covers near the applicators (sprayers) get replaced 2-3 times per shift. The larger robot covers are replaced weekly. Cleaning is a big part of the production operator's jobs. If we go in the booth to work on a robot, the covers have to be untaped and moved, then put back or replaced and retaped when we finish. That cheap tape does the job fine.
That's a lot of materials to go through! Craziness. That's how you get dust free paint though I imagine.
 

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That's a lot of materials to go through! Craziness. That's how you get dust free paint though I imagine.
Yes. If the paint builds up and stays on the cloth covers long enough, it starts to flake off as tiny particles and float in the air when the robots move. If it’s in the air, it will get on the car. Then we have to fix it and repaint. :( Painting here at the factory is definitely crazy.
 

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Yes. If the paint builds up and stays on the cloth covers long enough, it starts to flake off as tiny particles and float in the air when the robots move. If it’s in the air, it will get on the car. Then we have to fix it and repaint. :( Painting here at the factory is definitely crazy.
As opposed to yesteryear...

 

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I think we limit the number of times a car can be repainted. Pretty sure if it’s bad after the third time we scrap it and start over.
That was formed on the tracks and stuff as the vehicle dripped after being hand sprayed. It would get baked and then the next car would drip a different color at the same spots on the track and then it would get baked and it would just slowly keep growing one different colored layer at a time. Then people would chip it off and store so years later somebody could make jewelry out of it and sell it on etsy.
 

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That was formed on the tracks and stuff as the vehicle dripped after being hand sprayed. It would get baked and then the next car would drip a different color at the same spots on the track and then it would get baked and it would just slowly keep growing one different colored layer at a time. Then people would chip it off and store so years later somebody could make jewelry out of it and sell it on etsy.
Yeah. I got that. It’s different now, at least for us. Everything gets a lot more regular cleaning. Plus, there is less overspray in the air. We charge the paint to a positive 50k volts or so and the car is grounded. So the car attracts the paint as it comes out of the applicator. That would have been just a bit dangerous with people hand spraying.

One place where we get buildup like that is on parts cars. Those are scrap bodies we use that we can install a new replacement door, hood or hatch on and run them through the booth to get painted. Those bodies end up with really thick paint before they get retired. Parts bodies allow us to paint replacement removable parts instead of repainting a whole car just because a door or hood gets messed up.
 

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What kind of paint is used? Urethane? Enamel?
 

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What kind of paint is used? Urethane? Enamel?
I'm not sure. The base coat (color) is a water based paint. Our clear is a two part system. Manufacturer varies from time to time for various reasons. (PPG, BASF, and others)

I'm just maintenance.
 

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Sprayed the cab yesterday and it came out looking pretty good. Lots of orange peel on the roof so I'll have to polish some of that out. Doing the fenders and bed this week hopefully



 

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