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BlackBII

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Feels like I have done this 3 or 4 times

 


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BlackBII

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Just read the WHOLE build thread... Amazed. Wish I could build one just like it! You're gonna get that steering perfect! lol.
It's 50 pages now, a lot of reading I know!

What's stopping you from building one? Get to it champ
 

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Those pitman arms might be $200 (probably more now, haven't looked...) but they sure are magic... That's all I did for my steering and it drives pretty good even with a tape measure and eyeball alignment... I don't drive that one on the street to worry about tire wear, in the 9? years I've had the tires they're at 50% and are worn a little odd but whatever...
 

BlackBII

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Those pitman arms might be $200 (probably more now, haven't looked...) but they sure are magic... That's all I did for my steering and it drives pretty good even with a tape measure and eyeball alignment... I don't drive that one on the street to worry about tire wear, in the 9? years I've had the tires they're at 50% and are worn a little odd but whatever...
That one there is just the regular 2" drop arm that comes with 4" kits, so it was only $50 or so.

Back to hydraulic steering.. for now. The electric units wear out too quickly and get too much play in them. I need to go back and look but someone said that would happen and sure enough it did.

Motorcraft pump with Type F fluid and properly bled. No whine noise so far!

 

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That one there is just the regular 2" drop arm that comes with 4" kits, so it was only $50 or so.

Back to hydraulic steering.. for now. The electric units wear out too quickly and get too much play in them. I need to go back and look but someone said that would happen and sure enough it did.

Motorcraft pump with Type F fluid and properly bled. No whine noise so far!

Hey I no longer work for the company that made electric steering setup, so I can speak more freely. They're shit! I'm a quality engineer by trade. I've seen the returns. Lol trust me hydraulic is much better.

You had the brushed motor style. No way for the worm shaft and reduction gear wear to compensate like the later models.
 

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Hey I no longer work for the company that made electric steering setup, so I can speak more freely. They're shit! I'm a quality engineer by trade. I've seen the returns. Lol trust me hydraulic is much better.

You had the brushed motor style. No way for the worm shaft and reduction gear wear to compensate like the later models.
This is/was good to know! Thank you for sharing that info.

Are the newer units better? I saw that many newer ones are integrated into the rack and pinion.
 

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This is/was good to know! Thank you for sharing that info.

Are the newer units better? I saw that many newer ones are integrated into the rack and pinion.
There are currently two types of electric steering systems used on the steering rack to my knowledge. The Dual Pinion and Rack Parallel(ball screw type/belt drive) systems.

The Rack Parallel system supports larger vehicles up to about the size if a 1/2 ton truck. Dual pinion has better response or feel(currently used on the BMW X2 and X3 SUV's).

Honestly the new systems are better and do give advantages, and they are tunable with the simple flash of software. This makes it great for OEM's.

Not so much for the little guys. You are at a dealer's mercy when it comes time to replace or service the new electric units. You have to have proprietary software to do anything with them. Most of the time the work with no issues, but there are defects and a lot of failure modes with this new advanced tech.

What is the worst that can happen with hydraulic, some whining or a leak? That's stuff you and I can fix or even replace the whole unit fairly easily.
 


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