3.0l SHO Motor

[mhughes165]

funny i didnt see this thread before hand, why wouldnt u just get the m50d built to handle the torque??? u can build a manual transmission the same to handle power as u can build a automatic, i had actually be toying around with the idea of doing that with either supercharged 4.0 built up right in a ranger, or a sho motor with a built m50d behind it, i can get it build to handle 800 ftlbs of torqe GARUNTEED for about 1000, buddy has his old trans for his ranger built to handle the power with his worked turbo 2.3

 

[Wicked_Sludge]

how to push out 250hp and 240 trq just on bolts ons without breakin the bank

maybe you should start a new post since this really doesnt have anything to do with the topic

mhughes, there arent a lot of options out there for adding beefier parts to the M5OD. people usually beef up a trans by using stronger-than-stock aftermarket parts. not sure what your buddy did to his, but it couldnt have been much without a lot of custom work.

 

[mhughes165]

maybe you should start a new post since this really doesnt have anything to do with the topic

mhughes, there arent a lot of options out there for adding beefier parts to the M5OD. people usually beef up a trans by using stronger-than-stock aftermarket parts. not sure what your buddy did to his, but it couldnt have been much without a lot of custom work.

idk what was done, thats what the dude told him, that he would garuntee it to that.....dudes a miracle worker, i can bring him any trans and he can build, its all hes done for 50 years, old man ziggy is the shit

 

[RedneKRangeR]

i cant remember but would a t-5 off a 3.8 mate to the sho engine?
i know where theres one of each laying around needing a purpose...

 

[Wicked_Sludge]

it can be made to fit. either an adaptor between the engine and trans, or you need a vulcan bellhousing off of an FM trans out of an aerostar.

 

[hihoslvr]

jay leno's shogun

this might be a litttle of topic, but it's still cool: http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=188042

 

[capri1979]

for this i guess u would need custom motor mounts as well!?

 

[V8_power428@hotmail.com]

yeah my buddy picked up a 3.0L SHO last year for a grand the thing halls balls. it would be an awesome swap into a ranger especially if it was supercharged!!

 

[AllanD]

Doubt there is a 3.0 bellhousing for a mitsu trans since the mistu ended before the 3.0 started.
If I remember correctly, with that intake manifold they achieved 114% volumetric efficiency, that's insane on a N/A engine!

Actually there is, 1986-87 aerostars were sold with a 3.0 and a 5sp TK trans
and the T-K uses the same bellhousing as an FM145.

So IF you can find an '86-87 3.0 5sp aerostar you could get a bellhousing.

it can be made to fit. either an adaptor between the engine and trans, or you need a vulcan bellhousing off of an FM trans out of an aerostar.

The Aerostars in '86-87 ONLY used a TK trans.
Until '89 there wasn't a 2wd FM
for 1988 the RARE 5sp Aerostars used a Mazda M5OD-R1
(I have two of the unique top covers used on the
aerostar version of the trans)

Frankly I'd scrap the FM145 and look for a '93-up Mazda M5OD-R1 trans.

It'll definatly stand up to a SHO engine.

But then again there's another engine that I honestly think would be a better choice for a Ranger that everyone ignores...

The Split-Port version of the 3.8 engine used in Windstars and Mustangs.

That engine suffers NONE of the problems the original 3.8 engine had but makes 215hp, but at a MUCH lower rpm than the SHO engine.

Granted it doesn't sound exotic like "SHO" and doesn't look as sexy
compared to the SHO's "nest of snakes", but....

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[Wicked_Sludge]

the 3.8 also doesnt have the top end that the sho has....so it just depends on how you drive i guess. personally i like to stay in the revs, so the bottom end isnt all that important to me...make it all up in the big end

 

[AllanD]

There is a whopping 5hp difference but the power from the SHO is less accessable
because you need to rev the CRAP out of the engine to find any of it.


In a 2wd Ranger with really SMALL tires you'd still need 4.56 gears to make any of it useable.

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[Mutant Pony]

The older 3.8s had different blocks between fwd and rwd, Are the split ports the same? I would assume they are.
Part of using the SHO motor is the cool factor, split ports ain't cool!!!

 

[AllanD]

The split port engine was introduced for the Windstar as a FWD engine.
using the same bellhousing pattern as a 3.0.

It was also sold in the Mustang (probably still is) as a RWD engine
T-45 anyone?

Personally I'd use a RWD Mustang block because the manual flywheel is simply more "obtainable" and allows a bigger clutch

I'd actually use a supercoupe Flywheel, Clutch and M5R1 trans
But that's partially because it's parts I already have.

Split-ports ain't cool? look at the upper intake.
It's black and has those crossing tubes just like a SHO
It just isn't a twin cam.

But like I said the power is virtually the same 215hp for the split port, but it's "accessable" power for most ranger users.

My brother and I always wanted to build a SHO Taurus Wagon.
(It's about being unnoticed) that was until the 3.8 splitport
engine came out, The idea is that yes, the show has slightly more power but by the time a SHO owner finds it the 3.0 split port (assuming an identical car) is already accelerating hard in the next gear.

The SHO is about top end in a aerodynamic brick like a ranger you'd hate it.
even if you did manage to build your ranger with 4.88 gears and your tiny
Ricer sized tires.

Everyone TALKS about "power" but generally prefer torque if they
are given a sample of each of the two side by side.

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[Mutant Pony]

It is good to explain this to a lot of the youngsters here but, if any of that was meant for me you are wasteing your time.
I prefer HP to torque. My favorite Ford engines are 2.3, 3.0, and the 351c. All are screamers that are not big on low end torque. I do like the 302s but, owning one is almost like owning a chevy(everybodies got one).
All low end torque does is eat up tires that I can't afford to replace.

 

[AllanD]

You can "love horsepower" all you like, but except in a 2wd ranger with TINY tires and 4.56 gears you can't actually get to the power off the line.

You are ignoring the fact that the difference between a 3.0SHO and a 3.8Split-port
(220hp Vs 215hp) is essentially insignificant

My POINT is that the 3.8Split-Port is alot easier to use, it's more "user friendly"

That "power" you love is simply more accessable in a 3.8split-port.
the SHO is a laugh riot stuffed mid-engine into the back of a Festiva
(ever seena "SHOgun"?

The 3.8 would eimply be a lot more fun, keeping a really revvy engine "up"
becomes w-a-y too much like hard work...

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