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2.3 Pinto I/C Bellhousing Pattern?


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Have an opportunity to horse trade for a running 2.3 Pinto (ok, maybe it's a Lima, I have to double check, or one of ya'll will know) engine out of an old compressor/generator. I remember it's a 2.3 Ford four banger. I'll double check the casting number on the block.

Point is, does anyone know off hand if the bolt pattern on the industrial/commercial engines is the same as the RBV bellhousing bolt pattern? This is an OLD four banger - vacuum advance distributor, and looks like some sort of computer controlled carb.

Have an opportunity for this thing on the very cheap/trade. Figured it may be a good opportunity to pick up a standalone wired 2.3 in a skid to screw with when I get the urge.
 


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Not sure on the bolt pattern but I don't see why it would be different. The computer controlled carb is probably propane carb.
 

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I can't speak on behalf off the 2.3l, but I've dealt with quite a few Ford industrial engines over the years. There are sometimes differences that make finding parts a pain in the ass, but I've never seen a different bolt pattern.

I've got a place that can get any Ford industrial parts if you find you need something odd.
 

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There is no logical reason that the bell housing bolt pattern would be different between auto/truck and industrial applications.

If you chose the Lima as your powerplant, you would be wise to produce things that bolt to ALL of the engines rather than some customized casting. It is a Duh decision, and I doubt FoMoCo would entertain creating a new set of molds for the limited application. It makes no sense.
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May not be that old.

Forklift at the shop has a 2.3 industrial with vaccuum advance and a carb, and its a 91
 

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Not sure on the bolt pattern but I don't see why it would be different. The computer controlled carb is probably propane carb.
Believe it or not, it's a gasoline engine. I thought it would have been propane as well, making it a really cool one to have around as an "Oh sh*t" engine. I'm looking at it thinking is have a good baseline for a 2.3T build. Would give me an engine stand to work on it, and the ability to convert it to fuel injection, find the head I would want, etc.

Would let me wire it on a 60 pin harness as well.... Hmmm....



I can't speak on behalf off the 2.3l, but I've dealt with quite a few Ford industrial engines over the years. There are sometimes differences that make finding parts a pain in the ass, but I've never seen a different bolt pattern.

I've got a place that can get any Ford industrial parts if you find you need something odd.
May be taking you up on that. Like I said, I'm still in the "wtf would I do with it" phase. Lol.
There is no logical reason that the bell housing bolt pattern would be different between auto/truck and industrial applications.

If you chose the Lima as your powerplant, you would be wise to produce things that bolt to ALL of the engines rather than some customized casting. It is a Duh decision, and I doubt FoMoCo would entertain creating a new set of molds for the limited application. It makes no sense.
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I've seen Chrysler do dumber sh*t...lol

May not be that old.

Forklift at the shop has a 2.3 industrial with vaccuum advance and a carb, and its a 91
That's a damn good point.

I'm not sure what it originally came out of. I do know it was being used to power a deck mounted hydraulic pump. Cool little guy, already sitting in a cradle with Ford sheet metal on it.
 

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The memories are coming back....iirc was also early 90's.
The zoom boom I worked on was dual fuel. Had a gas carb with a propane hat on top. Propane system didn't work. I was doing a favor to my employer looking at it because there were problems with it running properly. I never looked at the propane system as they didn't care. The problems running consisted of basic maintenance....or the lack of. It was the first time I looked at an industrial engine. Pretty neat the way it swung out on 2 bolt/hinges. Was still a tight fit for some things.
 

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Looks like any other 2.3 to me. Is it a 1bbl or 2bbl? Carbed first gen Rangers had a 1bbl feedback carb and vacuum advance distributor. I know for a fact Pintos back to '78 had a progressive 2bbl with feedback carb. Even my '87 2.0 had a 2bbl Aisan feedback carb and vacuum advance distributor that they carried through '88.
 

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Looks like a very simple single barrel 2.3 that's Durasparked ??
 

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So. I have NO IDEA what this engine is other than a 2.3 ford
 

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There's a black and silver tag on the valve cover... that will answer all your questions.
It is in ohio, I am in Pittsburgh ?

But, I get it. I'll do some more digging.
 

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