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No, no... they have to design a new engine separator plate and a special starter too, better make the trans a different length so we can fuss over different driveshafts... because Ford has to Ford.

Nissan builds manuals, Toyota builds manuals, if Jeep doesn't I bet they soon will... there must be something of a market there.
Jeep puts a manual in the Wrangler (JL). Haven't checked the Gladiator, but it would be absolutely nothing to put one in, since most likely it is the same drivetrain already in the Wrangler.

Funny you mention that... I tried doing that a couple times in my old '00 Silverado and it wouldn't start. There was a light on the dash, Theft maybe? That would blink and nothing else would happen. Could be tuned out of the ECM I'm sure... But the point is... The bastards even took away my push start. I'd be curious if other late model manual trans vehicles do that... That truck is 20 years old now!
A '18 Tacoma can be push-started... Not sure about others (a friend has a '19 Mustang with the manual, he won't even try because he thinks he'll damage something because it's leased lmfao).

Well I would say that 85-90% of drivers can't drive a manual or do not want to drive a manual, likely higher
Matches exactly with my earlier statement that 10-15% of people do want a manual. If car companies hadn't been restricting their availability, I bet it would've remained significantly higher, maybe around 20-30%.
Toyota charges more for an automatic truck than a manual, everything else being the same (about $1400 IIRC). I imagine it's similar with Nissan (PJ might be able to confirm).
 


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Jeep puts a manual in the Wrangler (JL). Haven't checked the Gladiator, but it would be absolutely nothing to put one in, since most likely it is the same drivetrain already in the Wrangler.
The only glitch is the Gladiator is pretty stout for payload/towing while the Wrangler is kind of a wimp. There might be durability concerns just dropping a JL trans in a Gladiator.
 

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Part of the limitations for the Wrangle is their light weight and short wheel base. There is more to it than that but there is a point where their small size is a penalty instead of a benefit.
 

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My FIL had a Wrangler, that extra long two door they used to make. Electronic clutch, you couldn’t push start it. He hated it.
 

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The only glitch is the Gladiator is pretty stout for payload/towing while the Wrangler is kind of a wimp. There might be durability concerns just dropping a JL trans in a Gladiator.
I went to the Jeep website. It infact does show a manual trans available for the Gladiator (auto is +$2000).
 

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I went to the Jeep website. It infact does show a manual trans available for the Gladiator (auto is +$2000).
Ok, I didn’t think they were available out of the gate, I may have my wires crossed with the diesel though.
 

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Looks like we bought the wrong trucks, and are on the wrong forum if we want manuals, :)
 

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If I was going for the manual, I would have bought a different brand of truck. Unfortunately, circumstances in my case required I get something with a slush box. I almost went for a Tacoma then the new Ranger came out.
 

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Looks like we bought the wrong trucks, and are on the wrong forum if we want manuals, :)
Nope, the three levers coming thru my floor are not for decoration.
 


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