1997 ford explorer oil pan problem

[dshwopper]

Hello, I have a 1997 Ford Explorer 5.0 AWD whole 9 yards, and a 1998 Ford Ranger 2.5 2wd COIL SPRING front end. Trying to find an oil pan that'll work for it, I do not have the clearance for the aluminum one. I found the 79-93... Mustang dual sump pumps will work or even the rear sump pumps. Having a time trying to find one. But also having problems with if it'll fit. Napa is telling me it wont, of course napa will say that when the Explorers is 3 times the price. Any help. Again I have a 1997 Ford Explorer 5.0 AWD. Stock motor. And a 1998 Ford Ranger 2.5 auto. Made an engine mount for t but still ain't working out for me. Its hitting my suspension. The Ranger has a COIL SPRING FRONT END. Leaving less room that I know of so far, been running into problems others haven't it seems

 

[Mac]

The Explorer's had either an Alum or a stamped steel one. The steel one is the one that worksfor your 4x2 if engine is at right height. $69.99 at AutoZone. Sounds like you got the motor set too low. How much interferrence do you have and with what?
Dave
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Pioneer-Oil-Pan/1997-Ford-Explorer-AWD/_/N-jqaixZ93yap?itemIdentifier=724957_209453_0_

 

[dshwopper]

The Explorer's had either an Alum or a stamped steel one. The steel one is the one that worksfor your 4x2 if engine is at right height. $69.99 at AutoZone. Sounds like you got the motor set too low. How much interferrence do you have and with what?
Dave
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Pioneer-Oil-Pan/1997-Ford-Explorer-AWD/_/N-jqaixZ93yap?itemIdentifier=724957_209453_0_

From what I have been reading now. Since this gets me one step closer, I had VIP order two pans, one is a 1996-1997 oil pan, witch now looking it up says the 1996-1997 5.0 oil pan is aluminum. And the 1998-2001 is steel, trying to find out if there is a dept difference in both of these pans. Mine was roughly 5 inches. But reading someone else thread they said he bought a steel one and dented it a little to make it fit. For the motor mounts though. Does the 4.0s set the motor higher? Because I decided not to buy the 4.0s and use the 2.5s and make my own bracket to make it fit, witch worked I believe lines right up being an inch or two too high lol. If the 4.0s set higher I'd just buy the 4.0s and see if I can use my oil pan. I be it would fit if I didn't have the bolt sticking out of my suspension, not sure what it does but there is two on both sides and the drivers side is hitting the oil pan, the passengers side is two inches over. Grinded the drivers side a little but now its hitting the nut just about, only got maybe 1/4 of an inch of that bolt left.

 

[Mac]

For use with a V-8, I's sure go with the 4.0l ones, don't know about height difference. When using a Mustang oil pan, yes, have to dent them somewhat. Explorer pans are shaped different. See below, Stang in front.
Dave

 

[dshwopper]

For use with a V-8, I's sure go with the 4.0l ones, don't know about height difference. When using a Mustang oil pan, yes, have to dent them somewhat. Explorer pans are shaped different. See below, Stang in front.
Dave

yea but my question is what year and style? ive been year the dual sump from the 70s and ive hear 90s will work. i went to vip and ordered a 92 crown vic and a 97 explorer aluminum to compare and the 99 explorer stamped steel to dent to make fit from what ive heard and seen so far.

 

[Mac]

I gave you a link to one that will work if motor is placed right. Stamped steel Explorer one, might have been in several years but the link shows '97'. Stamped or alum works in any 4x4 but only the stamped one on a 4x2.
Dave

 

[dshwopper]

I gave you a link to one that will work if motor is placed right. Stamped steel Explorer one, might have been in several years but the link shows '97'. Stamped or alum works in any 4x4 but only the stamped one on a 4x2.
Dave

well that being said maybe i wont have to buy it. now not sure if you were the one who said not sure about the height differnce. but do you know if the 4.0 mounts raise the motor any?

 

[Mac]

I really can't help you on the mounts. Maybe a parts store will let you compare.
Dave

 

[RangerSVT]

Your problem is the mounts, not the pan. The mustang dual sump pan works for ttb/tib suspensions, not SLA suspensions. You should have been able to use the explorer mounts and explorer plates, otherwise you need to use the 4.0 mounts, and a plate that bolts to the motor. The original ex pan, either aluminum or steel, will fit providing you have the correct motor mounts...


SVT

 

[dshwopper]

Your problem is the mounts, not the pan. The mustang dual sump pan works for ttb/tib suspensions, not SLA suspensions. You should have been able to use the explorer mounts and explorer plates, otherwise you need to use the 4.0 mounts, and a plate that bolts to the motor. The original ex pan, either aluminum or steel, will fit providing you have the correct motor mounts...


SVT

thank you! thats the answers i was looking for. but to make more sense and to make sure you said buy the explorers 4.0 mounts? others were saying the rangers. but gone everywhere its the same part number between 2.5 and 4.0s on the ranger 98 to 00. the 4x4 gas a different part number but the guy said its the same thing, thinking he was too lazy to show me. was going to buy it if it was higher but i walked out with my money. but yea 4.0 in the explorer or the 5.0 in the explorer would raise the motor to the level i need it too? also if year matters? going to buy it today hopfully. its been sitting with no work done to it.

 

[RangerSVT]

If you pull up 4.0 mounts for a 4x4 ranger (or explorer) for your year, you'll be ok. Others may share the same part number, but better safe than sorry. Also, AutoZone.com and rock auto both gives you pictures of the part, for reference...

SVT

 

[Mac]

With the Explorer mounts, no difference at all if 4x2 or 4x4. both built on the same chassis. Had a new set for sale in the classified but no takers. Original Ford. Box they came in and a Google on what they fit. One problem is that the 4.0's couold be either OHV or SOHC, mounts are different. OHV takes 3L2Z-6038-BB and SOHC takes YL5Z-6038-CC. If you are making your own plates, won't make any difference.
Dave
OHV mounts uses
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/macripper/b0dfe8d0-7544-4b02-af0a-cb291069a0f5_zpse15735d5.jpg

OHV mounts, SOHC mounts have the bolts that go into the plate aligned, not staggered

 

[dshwopper]

so i went to almost every parts store in maine. i went to the junk yard and found the ones i need. sadly they wanted 50 bucks for one. so i left tried finding one. but again. they all have the same part number. autozone had a different part number. but said the studs are off set. but mine are indented well lowered uif that makes sense. well i went to vip they ordered all three for a 4by2 98 2.5 and a 4.0 4by4. then ordered the exploxers 4by4 4.0. guy will order whatever and i dont have to pay for it till i want it