Just when you thought it was safe....

[doorgunner]

......to get back into your JEEP.


Chrysler recalls nearly 87,000 Jeep Wranglers due to risk of fires


but seriously.......


(no comments necessary....headline says it all....pray for your Jeep friends)

 

[Freshmeat]

There are countless warning signs leading up to it. It's hardly a safety hazard unless you're a complete idiot, but it's good to see they're finally being held accountable for the weak link on those automatics.

 

[Freshmeat]

I finally read into the recall.

They (Chrysler Group) claim the fires are caused by debris getting trapped on top of the skid plate and between the catalytic converter and transmission. The recall removes the skid plate and replaces it with an unprotective bar.

No.

The problem is the transmissions overheat to the point they boil fluid out of the fill tube which ignites on the exhaust. The real resolution would be to install transmission coolers on anything from 2007-2011 with an automatic transmission, but that would be costly, so they're ignoring the actual resolution to save a few dollars.

 

[straycat]

This is just a precaution. No fires (just some smoke) were reported or any people were injured. Once Chrysler realized that the skid plates COULD trap debris and get very hot and possibly cause a fire they acted on it right away. Not, like Ford with their electrics that have caused several deaths and several homes and pets being killed. Not like Ford that had fiery rear end collisions with the Pintos that killed a few people or not to mention Ford with the wheels falling off or flipping of the Exploders…and we can go on all year long with other manufacturers…. RIGHT? So…stop knocking other manufactures. This is why they have recalls. A+++ on Chrysler for acting right away.

 

[Snoranger]

There are countless warning signs leading up to it. It's hardly a safety hazard unless you're a complete idiot, but it's good to see they're finally being held accountable for the weak link on those automatics.

So you you must be saying its a major safety concern? There are a LOT of complete idiots out there!

 

[Freshmeat]

This is just a precaution. No fires (just some smoke) were reported or any people were injured. Once Chrysler realized that the skid plates COULD trap debris and get very hot and possibly cause a fire they acted on it right away. Not, like Ford with their electrics that have caused several deaths and several homes and pets being killed. Not like Ford that had fiery rear end collisions with the Pintos that killed a few people or not to mention Ford with the wheels falling off or flipping of the Exploders…and we can go on all year long with other manufacturers…. RIGHT? So…stop knocking other manufactures. This is why they have recalls. A+++ on Chrysler for acting right away.

The information is skewed because it was regulated to 2010 JKs. I know a few people who had 2007 Wranglers burn to the asphalt in the middle of the road because they caught fire at a red light. Chrysler has one incredibly good legal team covering their asses through all of it.
Five years later is far from "right away."

That said, I knew of the problems and bought my 2012 anyway, because in '12 they finally added monstrous transmission coolers as a factory option.

 

[Freshmeat]

So you you must be saying its a major safety concern? There are a LOT of complete idiots out there!

It is a major safety concern if it gets combined with defective seatbelts or dumb passengers. If the smoke starts billowing from the underside of the vehicle, follow these directions:

1.) GTFO
2.) Get a beer.

 

[pillen140]

Finally a jeeper that isn't a "I own the best vehicle ever!" Jeeper. Recalls are recalls, most are from stupid people, like the explorer tire blow out that stray is talking about.... people were not properly checking their tires, and when they blew out, people panic like idiots and slam on the brakes and steerin into ditches instead of just slowing smoothly to a stop. A lot of chryslers are junk, but I like jeeps too (wranglers and cherokees) but they are actually really built poorly. My girlfriend has a tj and I can't believe how they skimped out on just about everything and how much they cost. The jk though is really an improvment for sure (although I still like tjs better). Car companies are car companies, remember, they're a business.... they will do what ever costs them less to make more money. And if you want to talk about rear collision fires, don't blame the pinto, it really wasn't as bad as it seemed. And take a look at jeep grand cherokee fires in rear collisions. I believe they've actually had more fires than pintos, but there is not recall because a judge said that it met all collision tests of its time. I have actually seen two burn with the people inside it in binghamton ny. One on highway 17, another one within viewing distance of my work window.

 

[pillen140]

follow these directions:

1.) GTFO
2.) Get a beer.

You forgot...
3.) Make sure insurance is paid
4.) Get marshmellows

 

[Freshmeat]

Finally a jeeper that isn't a "I own the best vehicle ever!" Jeeper.

Well, I am, but it took $8,000 in upgrades to get it there.

Rear bumper is almost finished, too, so I'll actually get to start beating on it again.

 

[CHKNFKR]

a jeep burned down a shop here a year ago. the customer parked it next to the building after hours and dropped the keys in the key box. a few hours later the shop, the jeep, and three other customers vehicles were destroyed.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

There are countless warning signs leading up to it. It's hardly a safety hazard unless you're a complete idiot, but it's good to see they're finally being held accountable for the weak link on those automatics.

I finally read into the recall.

They (Chrysler Group) claim the fires are caused by debris getting trapped on top of the skid plate and between the catalytic converter and transmission. The recall removes the skid plate and replaces it with an unprotective bar.

That is almost comical, I don't think I have ever pulled any flamible material out of a skidplate on my trucks. Maybe a cornstalk or three wrapped around an axle but nothing on a skidplate. If they get hot enough to light off mud and gravel there are bigger problems...

If the cats are that close to the ground what is the chance of starting a grass fire with an unshielded cat? Like with just the bar, it isn't going to do much for tall grass. Wildfires are not too fun either...

That is my great concern with cats on a wheeling/work vehicle. My F-150's are tucked up beside the engine bellhousing so it isn't so bad. My uncle buried his '98 Dodge 1500 in a seep. It looked like dry grass but was a mudhole underneith. He cut down a pop bottle that was the back of the truck with his pocketknife and was frantically running around the truck scooping up the mud water to spash on the smoldering dry grass as my cousin ran back to the house to get the tractor.

It is a major safety concern if it gets combined with defective seatbelts or dumb passengers. If the smoke starts billowing from the underside of the vehicle, follow these directions:

1.) GTFO
2.) Get a beer.

Does this have any chance of happening going down the road? Having the trans lock up at speed or touching off the fuel tank would create a safety problem.

Recalls are recalls, most are from stupid people, like the explorer tire blow out that stray is talking about.... people were not properly checking their tires, and when they blew out, people panic like idiots and slam on the brakes and steerin into ditches instead of just slowing smoothly to a stop.

Ford recomending 26psi in the tires coupled with defective tires and it is hard to blame the consumer IMO. Whether they knew how to handle a blow out is another thing, but if Ford was more concerned with tire lifespan than ride quality and Firestone was more concerned about making good tires than no-hunting signs the consumer wouldn't have had as much to worry about.

 

[AllanD]

It is a major safety concern if it gets combined with defective seatbelts or dumb passengers. If the smoke starts billowing from the underside of the vehicle, follow these directions:

1.) GTFO
2.) Get a beer.

The best beer you will ever have is the one you drink while OUTSIDE of your burning automobile....

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[straycat]

The information is skewed because it was regulated to 2010 JKs. I know a few people who had 2007 Wranglers burn to the asphalt in the middle of the road because they caught fire at a red light. Chrysler has one incredibly good legal team covering their asses through all of it.
Five years later is far from "right away."

That said, I knew of the problems and bought my 2012 anyway, because in '12 they finally added monstrous transmission coolers as a factory option.

My 06 Wranger X is happy and has had no issues. I love it and take it out a lot on Camping trips. I guess with the new JK (07) came a lot of changes (smaller engine that nobody has liked until the 2012 motor). What caues the fires on the '07's? Not the skid plae issue?

 

[Freshmeat]

My 06 Wranger X is happy and has had no issues. I love it and take it out a lot on Camping trips. I guess with the new JK (07) came a lot of changes (smaller engine that nobody has liked until the 2012 motor). What caues the fires on the '07's? Not the skid plae issue?

When they went to the V6 they changed to a different automatic transmission. This new one is prone to overheating and in many cases, even bone stock Wranglers, it has caused the fluid to boil out of the dipstick tube and pour out on the exhaust manifolds, which are normally a bit hot. Flames ensue.

It has nothing to do with the skid plates- I've been running 1/4" steel skid plates that block a tremendous amount of cooling airflow from the catalytic converter area and have had zero issues with igniting "debris" despite that almost every time I hose off the underside of the Jeep after a ride, there is something HANGING ON THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER.

They came up with this bullsh*t to misdirect NHTSA so they don't have to put out recalls on transmission rebuilds, Jeep replacements, and oil cooler installations.